Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Everytime I? watch the use your illusion live dvd's I think while everyone in the band, especially Axl, is on top of their game the show seems to be missing something. I finally realized it's the crowd at the tokyo dome. They're just very reserved, I guess as part of the culture. I just think the whole deal coulda been much better if shot somewhere else. You could here someone fart from the nosebleed seats in between songs it's so quiet and they're all dressed like they're on their way to work. Wondering if anyone else agrees with this.

I changed the subject, Christos AG

Geffen: World's tightest record company.

Tokyo Show: Recorded and edited by Japanese TV channel.

Simple really. 

I think instead of releasing that they should have put out either Paris 1992 or The Ritz 1988

Now I really want to see a 2002 dvd :smoking:

It was a very unimpressive concert. I've seen better performances on each song. A Vegas '01 DVD or an MSG '02 DVD would have been so much better...

I noticed the same thing - the crowd suck - they just stand there - it is a very good performance and always great to see a pro-shot concert

Axl was being nice when he said "This is the loudest crowd so far" lol yeah but they were dead agreed they should have released France 1992, The Ritz 1988 or maybe Vegas 01, Rio III, MSG 2002.

I agree i like the sound quality but the audience are lifeless. One of my favorite concerts is the 17 july 93 at the riverplate argentina. I love the four song sit on the couch section half way through

Chicago 92 would have been awesome too. But i'm all the way with ritz 88

That japanese crowd sucked a ton of cock! The farewell Argentina 93 show should have been released. It Ruled!  :peace:

He actually said "This is the loudest crowd so far here"

you can just imagine what the other crowds must have been like.

I know on crappy old VHS you couldnt put the whole thing on one tape. And they can make more money by selling it as two DVD's, but I would of prefered it to of been edited better for the DVD. Make it all on one DVD, cut the shit inbetween the songs with the interviews and what not out (put them somewhere else accesible or as "easter eggs" on the dvd) I just don't get into those concerts. With the junk inbetween the songs and having only half of the good songs on one and half on the other having to switch back and forth it doesnt seem like a "real concert". I prefer my RIR3 bootleg or Ritz 88, because you can sit there and get in vibe with them. I like the uninterupted concert.

I'm still thinking Geffen shoud put out 1 or 2 2002 dvd's....Like Toronto Canada and MSG :smoking:

well,i agree,gnr had great perfomance but crowd sucked.
paris,argentina 1992 or 1993,budampest 1992(i was there) had a great crowd.
But the best crowd was in rio 1991

And what's with the poor sound quality on the DVDs.  It doesn't sound that great

Welcome to the wonderful world of the early-nineties.

They didn't do shit all with the DVD's, nothing.

I had them in '93, except that it was in a linear format, tape actually.

what sucks is the fuckin' kick drum, it sounds terrible.

i think they patched it up on the DVD's though, on VHS its worse!!!

No, what sucks is that fucking 15 minute drum solo.

Lol - it does get a bit tedious.....but Axl needed time to get his fix :nervous:

I don't know why everyone keeps acting like releasing a "NuGnR" DVD was ever a consideration. All Geffen was doing was transfering their current video catalog to from VHS to DVD. Besides, Axl is never going to let an official release out with versions of songs that will (might) appear on Chinese Democracy.

Well, actually it was.

They were going to release the HOB show in Japan.

Then it was mysteriously cancelled....

That wasn't being released by Geffen it was by a Japanese company.

No, it was an official release.

I could be wrong but I was always under the impression that the Vegas DVD was a bootleg, along the lines of the "Sex Drugs and Rock and Roll" DVD. I could swear that around mid 2001 it came out that it was a Japanese company distributing it.

"Guns N' Roses' New Years Eve show at the House Of Blues in Las Vegas is scheduled to be released to the Japanese market Sept. 21 on DVD and video.
The recording runs 140 minutes and features the 20-track set list, including four new songs from the GNR's (supposedly) forthcoming new album, Chinese Democracy."
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=391

That's all I could find.. I read more about it someplace else though
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AMAZON.CO.JP to offer the DVD or VHS "Live in Vegas 2001" concert

Sale date is 2001/12/05
At present it is in reservation acceptance.

Performance: Live In Vegas 2001 and other things

Edition:
. DVD (2001/12/05)
. Region 2 (for Japan, Europe and Middle East)
. Universal music - ASIN: B00005NRUL
Concerning specification please click here.

Amazon.co.jp sale ranking: 308

Release information:
Selling agency: Universal music
Sale day: 2001/12/05
Time: 140 minutes

http://mygnr.com/news/2001/011111_1.html

cool, thats all I needed.........Let me sit down, it's easier to stick my foot in my mouth from down here.

Is there ever a need for a 15 minute drum solo anytime? I don't think I would want to see one even if it had Don Henely, Dave Grohl, Tommy Lee all working one big drum set. They could of added 2 or 3 other songs in its spot. Its the WEAKEST part of either DVD.

I know this has been discussed here before, but I don't remember the final verdict: so when Axl comes back onstage before Sweet Child, is the white stuff on his face a) coke b) makeup or c) something else?

Two words;

John Bonham.

Wise words...

The HOB DVD was indeed official and was to be released by Universal Japan. No "outside Japan" release was ever planned though. The sad thing is that those DVDs must be stored somewhere in Japan in some warehouse but no one knows where, and maybe they have been destroyed. It's been 3 years already...

Don't you think it would be fucking great to get your hands on one of those dvd's....I know I would be one happy son of a bitch

How close to the relate date was it before the DVD's were dropped. If it was cancelled close the the release date one would assume they have to be hidden somewhere or in storage.

 :hihi:That was fucking funny :rofl:

I know everything about this DVD, it's a the Saint Graal for me! ;D

It was first set to be released on Sep. 21, 2001, thru HMV Japan. They even said on their website that the DVD would come with a sticker and a bandana (!). The DVD's reference number is: AEBR-1003. On Sep. 13, 2001, HMV told its customers that the DVD was postponed to an unkown release date. They even said in their email that the item "could be released when the new album is released (the sooner would be Dec. 2001)". [that's why I always kinda thought that if Chinese Democracy is released, the DVD will make an appearance...]

Early Nov. 2001, Amazon Japan added the DVD to their website. It was then due to be released on Dec. 5, 2001. [look at a screenshot I made then on Amazon Japan: screenshot (http://www.gnrfrance.net/GNR/News/Dates/Guide/guide2.jpg) - I added French translations in red for my site]. On Dec. 5, 2001, Amazon updated the DVD's page saying it would be delivered in "2 to 3 days". A few hours later, the DVD completely disappeared from the website, like it never existed.

On Feb. 12, 2002, the DVD made a comeback on a French online store (www.fnac.com), as a japanese import. On Apr. 15, 2002, the DVD was made unavailable...once again.

Since the appearance in 2002, we never heard about that DVD anywhere on the web, which is kinda weird, because one would have thought the DVD would have leaked sometime, but nope. The DVD seems to have been produced between february and august 2001. It's always been a Japan-only DVD (& VHS) release. Interscope Records never talked about it (no press release like for the official DVDs and the Greatest Hits), no band member ever talked about it either.

I don't like the female horn section, and I don't like Tracey and Roberta!

Well, I don't like Teddy.  : ok:

The UYI DVDs really don't give fans that are REALLY into GN'R a good idea of what the GN'R world was all about at the time. It was chaotic, unpredictable and the hype was amazing. Perhaps something like Chicago 92 would have summed it all up. I mean Axl telling his fans to 'shut the fuck up' just sums up the nerve, edge and attitude of Axl!

Of course in Japan, the atmosphere just wasn't there, the interaction between the crowd and band on whatever various issues was bothering Axl wasn't going to happen at a place where they probably couldn't understand what he was saying.

And it would be really nice if Universal Australia would have done what most people would consider fairly basic, and tested the DVDs before releasing. Although I was pleased to finally be able to press a single button to skip past the tedious drum solo, the whole experience is ruined when the DVD mutes out constantly throughout, especially toward the end during Rocket Queen, Estranged and Paradise City  :rant:

Aerosmith explained the Japanese crowds in their autobio by saying Japanese fans are normally very quiet because they don't want to miss a thing (like that?)......so they don't make a lot of noise. In reality, they're as much a fan as anyone else, but they just aren't noisey...........

AIN'T IT FUN WHEN SPECTATORS FROM THE AUDIENCE GET ON STAGE AND FUCK WITH THE EQUIPMENT?!!!!!!!!

I actually like the Tokyo DVD.