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I was talking with the guy over at the "rumor board" and asked him about the VMAs, he said he will do some digging.
Maybe Mysteron can look into this to.

The VMAs are on sunday August 29 and Neither Tommy nor Dizzy have a solo date planned for that day.
We know the rumored month for CD to be released is Nov or early Dec, so do you think Axl could kick off the VMAs with the new single to get things started and the hype started for the  album?

Lets hope they play the VMAs, any thoughts?

I'd be suprised but you never know

Nope.

Doubt it. That may a one-trick pony that you can only pull once. Dizzy and Toomy may not be playing then, nut they sure as hell will be right in the thick of touring, and probably aren't going to scrap everything just for the VMA's ( I don't think Axl would ask them to). It's a nice thought, but I don't think it's plausible. A commerical or promo for CD may happen, IMO.

How would they scrap anything to play the VMAs? Its just one nite and its an off nite for both of them.? So neither dizzy nor tommy would have to cancel any show.  If im not mistaken mtv wanted gnr back last year too but Axl turned it down.
I am sure MTV has contacted gnrs management about doing this years since they know the album is coming out soon.

Well, which city are the shows that dizzy and tommy will be coming to the vmas in? and which cities will they each be playing next?

No way. MTV will not trot them back out there until they have some kind of music out that is popular and would dictate doing so. The whole shock value with no product thing has been done already.....so I wouldn't count on seeing them again. Also, they will never be able to recapture the magic of 2002 anyway, so MTV is not going to put them out there until there is reason to. 2002 was done as there had been tremendous curiosity as to what Axl had assembled, now people have seen it and are just waiting....which to many people has worn thin, so I don't think we'll be seeing that again.

It's highely unlikely that GN'R play the VMA this year in my opinion. I just don't "feel it". It's too soon, guys, the VMA is only in 1 month! It's too soon for the band. and what will they play? jungle? paradise city? and madagascar?  once again? come on...

The band could play the first single of just play chinese democracy the title track of the album.
And its not too early since last time they played it was on a weeks notice.

As for the VMAs its in FL and i think tommy and dizzy are playing in CA.
But its only  a plane ride there and back.

I see your point, but again there is the question of rehearsal time (which there would be little of). Last time, the VMA thing was bookended between the Eurasia and US mini tours, so the group had some time playing significant live gigs together. The other thing is, why would Axl do it unless Chinese Democracy is ready ? I ddon't think he will make the mistake he did last time of going live without a product in tow....again, the VMA's could play some part in the GNR promotion machine if something is ready, I just don't see a live performance (hope I'm wrong).

I really don't think GNR will play the VMAs this year.And if they do,they definetly won't be a surprise,like two years ago.That would be stupid.People will say:"Oh,it's these guys again.What,they can only play at the VMA's?"  VR are very possible performers,though.

I agree...they got nothing to show off there

I really doubt it

This will probably be the day you see a Chinese Democracy Ad.  Kinda Like the Oh My God soundtrack in 99 but less obscure.  At least, I hope.

If GNR did play the VMA's Axl could then say "Round 2" hahaha

But I would rather see VR do it

No

I would love to see it happen so I got hope you never kno whats going to happen in GN'R world

 :hihi:

Yeah sure they will!

 :rofl:

I doubt it 2

No you wont look into it or no you dont think they will do it?

I doubt it because the gap between sept and nov is to long. If the album was coming out in October then yes it would be a great possibility because they can debut the single at the show etc.

Next yrs vmas they will be there if the album is out

Come on people, they just played 2002, it does not mean they will play every year.

That time they were touring etc... now band members are doing solo shows, etc, the band is not rehearsaling... this is non sense. Last year was the same story.

Peace
 :) 

They won't do it

They won't be asked

They are not on the (albeit preliminary, but mostly final) list of artists set to appear this year. 

Now, when I asked the same person about VR...the response was "We'll see".  I'd put better than even money on a VR appearance/performance. 

Im with Pilferk here, look VR right now is the i"t" rock band of the moment and think about it VR just filmed this past weekend the video for the next single fall to peices so it kind of makes more sense as they could use vmas to play the new song and slither if they wanted to while GNR all we have is a rumored November released date and no new material so to me it would make more sense to see VR on the VMAs then GNR all though I would love to see GNR on it with Axl kickin the ass of all those crappy musicians at the VMA (sorry not a big fan of most MTV music) later

peace :peace:

IF gnr appeared on the VMAs it would be huge once again and it would dwarf any appearance by VR.

If they did play the Vmas...when would u want them to play and what song?


id say..open the show and Chinese Democracy or the Blues

Nothing to promote. Why would MTV want them?

Where do you get this from?

VR and GNR at the VMA's together would be pretty interesting... maybe next year?

They don?t need to play
just let the first single be the opening music to the show
could be interessing ...

After most of the public thought the 2002 was junk I doubt they will be asked back without the CD out

no it would make Axl look stupid for using the GN'R name when most of the GN'R members the audience knows of plays in VR...(besides, I think the MTV-junkies will be more excited about seeing a band they've heard about, and a band that is current, VR, than some eighties band that they've only heard the name of...)
and Dave, you have NO idea whether the music will be better than anything VR has made so just drop those stupid comments.
based on wild speculations, Silkworms and bad live recordings of Rhiad (pretty much the same reasons as dave), I really think, in theory, that the album Chinese Democracy will suck...waaaaait, what am I talking about? an album?? :rofl:

and NO, I can not see Axl appearing on the VMAs again so soon. I don't think he should do it either, maybe if the album came out like a month later, but otherwise, nah.

Time for round II then... ;D

Yes I know if the music on CD is going to be better than what is on contraband judging by the songs we have already heard from the new gnr. The new gnr songs are better than what contraband has put out, so with those songs alone  the new gnr stuff is already better than contraband. And those songs are not even the "big guns". 

If gnr are going to be touring next year in Jan and have the album out by then, Axl would be smart to play the VMAs and give out the releases date at the endd of the song.

Axl talked about the short notice after the VMAs, and about mtv wanting them last  year, someone talked about this last  year after the VMAs that knows someone from mtv.

i think that although it is unlikey, there is still a chance for them to play the VMAs if CD is gonna come out within the next 5 months.

it'd be nice, but not gunna happen.

MTV asked Guns N' Roses last year, this year, and they will ask every year for as long as Axl Rose is in Guns N' Roses, because whether you liked their performance or not, Guns N' Roses gives the VMA's much more publicity than Velvet Revolver or other bands you can think of ever will.

Axl and his band may play but GnR won't because Slash and Duff will be playin somewhere with velvet revolver. (I know I am asking to be bombarded with "it's still GnR)  ;)

Why do you even bother?  ::)

That's right Dave, if GnR did this,   if GnR did that....., blah blah blah blah blah, you've been saing this same shit for years now.

And its all true.
Gnr played the VMAs a few years ago and it was HUGE.
So what do you have to say about that?

half of Axls new songs are on level with Contraband. Silkworms, are ten steps below it, Oh My God is better, but not as good as anything on Contraband, Rhiad can be a decent studio song, not great, but anyways it sucks live!!

big guns?
touring in January??
album out by then???

are you awake dave...?? Im a little worried about you.. :-\

I don't think anything on contraband compares favorably to oh my god or chinese democracy. perhaps rhiad is a good comparison.

I am awake just fine, and you can say that silkworms is not better than anything off of contraband, but oh my god, cd, maddy, the blues and riyadh are all better pretty much everything on contraband.

The blues and maddy are better than anything off of contraband and id take cd, riyadh and oh my god over any rockers on contraband.

I heard contraband twice on that mtv stream and the songs they play on the radio, they are just not that good cept for a few songs.

I'm not sure about riyadh.  I just can't seem to get into that song.  I do love Maddy and the Blues, but really think YGNR and LTA are really just as good.  I'm really anxious to hear some more aggressive songs from Axl.  Really, 'Oh My God' and 'Chinese Democracy' are the only 2 somewhat heavier songs and I think VR has some better, hard rocking songs.  But, let's wait and see what all Axl has to offer before we really compare....

If GNR has the chance to play the VMA's, (which is highly unlikely), I'd prefer them play something new.?

The songs mentioned in this thread are all at least 3, four or 5 years old and hopefully, (less CD) have long been forgotten by Axl and put on the shelf where they belong.?

Does the world need quiver lipped buttrock like Maddy and The Blues or unfinished demo's like Rhiad or Silkworms?

I don't think so..

Yeah it was but how many times can Axl come out play the old songs and maybe one new one? I am sure MTV seen GnR touring in 02 and though the ball for CD was rolling and coming out, But the way the tour ended and no news on CD, MTV wont be asking them back unless there is a scheduled release date

well then, of course, we have different tastes, but ok, let's go through this.
chinese democracy is probably on the same level as some of the rockers on Contraband.
Madagascar(why do you guys call it Maddy? it sounds stupid) and the Blues are probably as good as YGNR and FTP.....and knowing Axl and the weight he puts into songs like that in studio, they are probably gonna turn out better than the slow VR songs, cos thats Axls expertise.
and right now, Im expecting Axls rockers to be just as good as VRs rockers, cos let's face it, the genr? we thought VR had nothing to do in, balladlike songs, turned out to be better than anyone would have ever thought!
and now Im kinda expecting that Axl put out an album filled with smash hits like Madagascar and rockers justa as good, or better, than Contraband.....but is he gonna pull through? and is the album ever coming out??
I say NO! I hope with all my soul that it will....but I just can't see it happening!(if it happened id would be the greatest thing ever though). but......well, I can'e see it ever coming out.
fuck GN'R; I have John fuckin' Frusciante, the biggest musical genious walking this planet as my musical saviour these days. that man is truly a genious, I wish Axl would collaborate with him on something, but I can't see that happening, I don't think Axl would dare to do it.

Yeah espically for the Rock in Rio shows they make headlines for that. Although  I rather see The Darkness on this one  : ok: it's time to bring something fresh maybe kurt loader won't look so depress at this year vmas.

MTV - VIDEO Music Awards

How about the New GN'R makes a music video before you start talking about them being on the show again.  The last time was a "suprise performance" type of deal.  Why would they have the same band back for the VMAs when they don't even have any music videos?

Dude, MTV put GNR on in 2002 they had no clue what Axl was going to play.  I think that MTV will be happy to help bring back the greatest hard rock band of all time.  No matter what MTV will be a part of some publicity stunt to help GNR.  I dont think that they will play the VMA's.  It would be too early for GNR to release a new single for a november/december album.

I think that it would be awesome though if Velvet Revolver played at the VMA's.

Slashisthebest

Hum.. I don't think that's gonna happen.

http://heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=1115

I don't think they will play this year, but if we do have a release around the end of the year or early 2005, we'll definately see them next year, picking up their awards  ;D

I'd say you're , as usual, living in the world of fantasy & make-believe.