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Personally, CD is tied with The Blues as my favorite of the new songs.

 I just love how edgy it sounds, and the chorus kicks ass. I think it's a really well-constructed rock song.. although, it sounds like they slowed it down a bit during the 2002 tour. The RIR 3 version sounded a little speedier.

My two fav all the way, The Blues MSG is amazing

Chinese Democracy is one of the best fuckin' songs 'round, it gets me pumped everytime! :hihi:
i cant get enough of it dude!!!! : ok: : ok: ;D :beer: >:( :smoking:

i have listened to a live version of this song, and a short studio clip that was posted a while ago.

I enjoyed the live version, however the (albeit brief) studio clip sounded absolutely awesome!

It takes a couple of listens but I do like the song

It's strange in a way because it's quite an old song now

for me, that's the song I like out of all that we've heard so far...so I dig that song ;D

I love it....I was happy to see they added a second solo to it. It was too short at first.  I love how it sounds so clean yet grunish on that boston promo.....Cant wait

I think the song rules. Great grungey but rock influenced feel. I love the 2 guitar solos. And the way the song kicks off is awesome. The song also has really cool lyrics, especially the end. Great song.

I really, really like it. A very catchy song. It's definitely one my fave new songs. The intro is awesome I think (especially on that radio promo 5 second excerpt from 2002).

Great tune, by far the best rock song Axl has to show so far..

Lose the goofy synth and it'd be a top 5 GNR fav for me.

I love Chinese Democracy. I also love how the band is really into playing it. You can see that they sort of wake up when its time to play it. I am sure that playing music they had a hand in is more exciting.


I love all the new tunes, including Silkworms.

I am ready for concert with mostly new stuff. The old stuff is some of the greatest rock ever , but its time to move on! Been there, did that!

I've heard a few live bootlegs of it and I got to say I like it, its not my fav new song (the blues) Hell the bootlegs sound better then half the shit on the radio imagine when the studio cut comes.

I like Chinese Democracy a nice angry song 2 listen to

i love this song.. but the begininng of the version i have cracks me up.. i think its the boston soundboards version.. right before the guitar intro axl (most likely) does a little "woop woop woop" just like curley from three stooges and it just cracks me up..  :hihi:

but aside from that, the song has a really strong intro.. i only wish it was a little longer before axl kicks in.. but its still a kickass song!  :peace:

I love the chinese style synth thing right before the first verse. very clever. If this is what the heavy stuff is going to sound like we won't be disappointed.  :yes:

I like it a lot, but I think the second solo feels out of place in that song.

Love it

Okay the guitars aren't groundbreaking but Axl's lyrics are so catchy its impossible not to find urself singing along to it, with a bit more work we're looking at a genuine classic (though its not far off at the mo)

It's Okay. I think the studio version will be alot better. : ok:

Good song,has a great vibe to it. Not a big fan of the guitar solos,though.

Luv it !!

Like columbus bootleg the best even though it seems to be missing a line or two, the sound is awesome.

second solo kicks ass

I love it to death. If the grunge genre started tomorrow, instead of '91, this song could possibly be the "Teen Spirit" of the year.  It has such a rawness, but it's modern, and really catchy. Great aggression...

That is an interesting thought.  I really wonder the reception that the song would have gotten if it was on the Illusions.

very good song..cant wait for a studio version..the second guitar solo by buckethead makes the song

I love chinese democracy but it's too short.  :)
It's good for a live version.

good song, but rhiad is like 5000x better

It took about 3 listens originally I thought it sucked - now I love it - I had the same problem with Oh My God at first.......

 :no:

Not even close...Not even close to close.

Nasty riff, cool solo, etc. - "Chinese Democracy" is a great song.  "Rhyiad..." is not.

my sentiment exactly
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ya it isnt even close. rhiad has a better riff, a better solo, better lyrics, better drumming, better vocals, better EVERYTHING. Chinese Democracy is an ok song but it lacks originality. The verse is extremely bland too, the part where there is like no guitar and just a drumbeat and sound effects. Rhiad is a full on rocker that makes chinese democracy sound like a pussy. In conclusion, you are wrong, and I am right. How dare you insult my statements?

Chinese Democracy is a great song & if axl says that hes leaving the big songs until later i cant wait to hear the big songs

Here we go again, the ever popular "big guns" propaganda.. ::)

I like Rhiad better than CD. Great riff and great electronic groove. The lyrics are better as well. CD is good but I think Rhiad will be alot better coming out of the studio. Very Plant-esque vocal wails. To each his own. ;D

How is it propaganda? Its not liek the band boasted about that or anything. All Axl has said was that the songs they have played will not be the "singles" and he has also said they are holding back the big guns. All that means is that the band has a bunch of songs that they feel strongly about and are the "impact" songs.

Its not a far fetched thing to believe in. Actually it makes sense. WHy would the band play their best songs before they release the album and are ready to properly go at things.

Whether you think this band isnt capable of having some great songs in the vault is one thing, but fact is that they have songs that they are banking on and that they truly believe in. And theres no denying Axls ability to deliver a great song.

Well, it unfounded.  We as fans have no idea what in fact exists or the quality of supposed said material.

I believe you yourself have said something to the effect of "let the music do the talking, then we'll see".

Same thing here, no sense labeling material, especially unheard material for that matter as "big guns".  It takes fans to higher levels of expectation when the basis of that expectation is a one off statement from the artist himself whose view of his own material is obviously skewed to say the least.  It also takes away from the material he has decided to go public with and portrays it as substandard.  Granted IMO, that material as a body of work has been somewhere south of disappointing, but that's neither here nor there.

Simply put, it's all speculation until we actually hear it.

Chinese Democracy gives me hope that an Axl-led band can still produce good rockers. I *liked* a lot of the rockers on UYI (esp You Could Be Mine, Perfect Crime, and the first few minutes of Back off Bitch and Locomotive), but I haven't *loved* a GNR rocker since Appetite. Why do I continually emphasize rockers? Because rockers are what made GNR an important band in the first place. Hopefully CD (the song) is only a taste of what they've done in this area on CD (the album).  

No, but we have an idea. For the most part everyone thinks the new songs are excellent. And when the band says that they have what they think are better songs in the vault, as a fan thats very exciting and promising.

And when a guy named Brian MAy comments on the material and says how wonderful it is, then theres a good chance it will be.

Without a doubt. The band still has to deliver musically. They have to still meet certain expectations. BUt until then we have been given a handful of  good to great songs. And when discussing the rest of the material that will follow we atleast have an idea of how good or bad it will be. And so far they havnt dissapointed.  And when Axl Rose says they have some better songs, I believe him.

This started because someone said that they cant wait to hear the rest of the album because the songs we have heard arent the big guns, the singles, the money makers. Its not speculation, its reality. The reality is that there are songs that the band strongly believes in. Whats wrong with that. I can seee your point if the band kept boasting baout this "big gun"theory but at most I have heard them refer to it once or twice. ANd not in a bragging manner. Just an informative manner in which they said yea we are playing some new songs but we are holding back our better ones.  

Where can I hear a really good version of CD?

There's probably some good quality boots of the RIO version because that was broadcast on satellite TV. Whether it's the best they've played it, that's debatable. But you will be able to hear the song very well and get a good idea. Plus you can probably find it on Kazaa or something.

The absolute best versions are the Boston (remastered sound-board) and Rio. The synths are more punctuated in the Rio version, which I like...

I think you, me and the rest of the GnR community, know that this would NEVER have made it onto the illusions, because Slash and Izzy and Duff would NEVER have written the music to this.  It's not in the league of the Illusions worst stuff.

the song is average for me. Neither bad nor good. Nothing especially great.  Maybe the studio version will be better...I hope Axl wrote much much better songs over the past 10 years than this one.
the blues and madagascar are far better.