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Title: is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: nesquick on July 22, 2004, 07:40:47 AM
read on mygnrforum, a guy said he spoke to Brain:

"I tell him how i love his work with primus and what ive heard from him with GNR...he laughed and said "Primus is good"...and stayed away from gnr so just in case i asked if he was still in gnr, and he said "as long as they pay me," and we both shared a laugh"

and he laughed...what a shame. He really doesn't give a shit about GN'R does he?  ::)


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Caligula13 on July 22, 2004, 08:00:23 AM
OH MY GOD!

UNBELIEVABLE!!

A WORLD IS FALLING APART FOR ME!!!!! :P


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: ClintroN on July 22, 2004, 08:15:00 AM
i dont beleive that, Axl wouldnt take it


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Bill 213 on July 22, 2004, 08:35:03 AM
Of course he's there for the money.......why the fuck wouldn't he be?  


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: estranged.1098 on July 22, 2004, 08:37:41 AM
read on mygnrforum

nuff said


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Nicos on July 22, 2004, 08:51:12 AM

I'm sorry to say this Nesquick and maybe I'm wrong but your posts lately, always seem to be about creating some sort of negative buzz.

Like this one. Do you really think Brain is in it for the money???
Money really is not that high on the list of priorities for high profile muscisians like him.

We don't get a lot of possitive things already so why try and create more negativism?

Asking questions to get people thinking is a good thing, but I'd like to see you asking more positive ones.

Thanks!

Bests,


N ! 3 |(


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: noonespecial on July 22, 2004, 09:07:49 AM
What's wrong with being an entertainer and liking the pay? :hihi:

If he sits down and plays for Axl that's all he is obligated to do...works for me.


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: PhillyRiot on July 22, 2004, 09:15:47 AM
Brain never gives us any updates or anything.


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: jarmo on July 22, 2004, 09:17:05 AM
Did you hear Matt Sorum's comments on the BTM?

He thought he had signed up for a bad rock n' roll band and instead he had to play a song like November Rain.  ::)

Why do you think he stuck around if GN'R wasn't as "bad" as he had hoped?


I hope the band members are interested in more than just the money. At least they don't have to watch out for dancers etc while on stage.  :hihi:



/jarmo


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Izzy on July 22, 2004, 09:51:32 AM
read on mygnrforum, a guy said he spoke to Brain:

"I tell him how i love his work with primus and what ive heard from him with GNR...he laughed and said "Primus is good"...and stayed away from gnr so just in case i asked if he was still in gnr, and he said "as long as they pay me," and we both shared a laugh"

and he laughed...what a shame. He really doesn't give a shit about GN'R does he?  ::)


Its a joke, u know funny, ha-ha?

It even says he's laughing about it :confused:


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Will on July 22, 2004, 10:37:59 AM
He thought he had signed up for a bad rock n' roll band and instead he had to play a song like November Rain.  ::)

"What's with the piano?" ::) Yeah GN'R sucks so bad... :P

And no, I don't think Brain is in it for the money. Those guys have the dream job: they recorded [are recording] one of the most anticipated rock albums ever, they have lots of free time and can play concerts whenever they want with whoever they want. I don't see why they would leave. Once GN'R starts back again, they will be back and run a great show.


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Mutherfunker on July 22, 2004, 11:06:29 AM
How are people missing the bit where he says he laughed?

It's a joke - FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!  :rant:  ;D

@#$%Muther


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: jbreezy on July 22, 2004, 11:28:47 AM
read on mygnrforum, a guy said he spoke to Brain:

"I tell him how i love his work with primus and what ive heard from him with GNR...he laughed and said "Primus is good"...and stayed away from gnr so just in case i asked if he was still in gnr, and he said "as long as they pay me," and we both shared a laugh"

and he laughed...what a shame. He really doesn't give a shit about GN'R does he?  ::)

I have a novel idea, let's start a bunch of negative posts, that are total bullshit, and then in the off chance that Axl or any of the other guys reads there "fans" message boards, they can see how much we appreciate them.  Wow, maybe all these rumor mill creator's could find a nice hig cliff and pretend they can fly.  Way too much negativity, If I were in GNR, and read all this shit, I'd sit on the CD too.
Keep the faith my GNR brethren, there are some of us who still have faith.
Peace


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Nicos on July 22, 2004, 12:02:09 PM
How are people missing the bit where he says he laughed?

It's a joke - FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!  :rant:  ;D

@#$%Muther


Cheers mate!


N ! 3 |(


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Butch Français on July 22, 2004, 12:35:52 PM
first, it's a joke...
second, Axl is damn lucky to have one of the most competent drummers in the world in his band....I still wonder why he didn't leave with Bucket, I probably would have.. :P but if the pay is great ;D


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Falcon on July 22, 2004, 01:13:52 PM
Most male musicians will say they got started in the business for 2 reason:

Girls and money.

Whether they stay in it for that is up to the individual, beyond that, who the hell knows?

Speculating here, with the long periods of incactivity (touring), lack of release date and general low opinion (industry and public) of Axl
at this point in time, an educated guess would say "the money" is a
huge factor to stick around.  I doubt it's the only factor, but a major factor for sure.


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on July 22, 2004, 03:13:31 PM
I would say the Money is a  huge factor. not to mention if he is on CD, that will boost his career, instead of being refered to as the primus drummer, he'll be refered to as the GnR Drummer, not to mention the FREE SEX from female groupies/fans.

Afteral Matt Sorum said he's still banging 18 year olds because of his GnR Days.


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: younggunner on July 22, 2004, 03:44:18 PM
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Speculating here, with the long periods of incactivity (touring), lack of release date and general low opinion (industry and public) of Axl
at this point in time, an educated guess would say "the money" is a
huge factor to stick around.  I doubt it's the only factor, but a major factor for sure.
We have no idea how, when and if they are getting paid. Maybe they stay because they actually know whats going on. Just because they say things that dont add up when asked about GNR doesnt mean they know jack shit. It could be a bluff. Who knows.

And this is all coming from a fake encounter


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Falcon on July 22, 2004, 05:15:11 PM

We have no idea how, when and if they are getting paid..

"If" they're getting paid?

C'mon..


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: jbreezy on July 22, 2004, 05:21:24 PM
Who knows what the fuck is going on, all we can talk about is conjecture, who knows if this person isn't just goin for some attention, and who really gives a fuck what they're in it for as long as they're in it right?  So, this is a pretty lame post.


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: kupirock on July 22, 2004, 05:26:44 PM
Did you hear Matt Sorum's comments on the BTM?

He thought he had signed up for a bad rock n' roll band and instead he had to play a song like November Rain.  ::)


Well he can now play classics like Set Me Free and Slither  :rofl:


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: nesquick on July 22, 2004, 06:55:49 PM
let's get back to the main subject ok?

I will probably shock a lot of people but...

alright after reading that post http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=21130, and that one http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=21119 I am more and more convinced that Brain is a bastard. Yeah a bastard. Just a mercenary who doesn't give a flying shit of the band. He is just here for his paycheck and that's it. Plus, when I watch my 2002 bootlegs, I feel that Finck is involved, Fortus is involved, Stinson is involved, Dizzy is involved, Axl is involved (normal it's his band now)... Buckethead seems appart (strange guy, pretty weird....) and brain doesn't seem to be involved at all. You can see it on his face, there is absolutely ZERO feeling, no look in other members' eyes, he just played drums as if he was cleaning toilets without heart, without soul, without passion, he is tight.

I really can't stand him and I notice I am definitely not the only one....


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on July 22, 2004, 07:02:55 PM
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We have no idea how, when and if they are getting paid.
They are getting paid thats part of the 13 million spent on the album


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: nesquick on July 22, 2004, 07:20:23 PM
I think Brain is out of the band.
 I feel it inside me. I think he follows Buckethead and lef/was fired of the band.
This is the only way to explain his attitude toward the band and the album "chinese democracy".

Me: Brain, you still with GNR?
Brain: Haha. If they ever pay me
Me: yoyo, What's the deal with Chinese Democracy?
Brain: [he laughs]
Me: Is it coming out anytime soon?
Brain: [rolls eyes] I don't know. I don't really keep up with it.


 >:(


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: badapple81 on July 22, 2004, 07:40:57 PM
If Brain's comments were indeed said, take it for what its worth, a light hearted giggle.

nesquick.. how can you say that brain isnt involved at all? He was playing his drums wasnt he? I mean if Axl stood there the whole show and didnt move when he sung, then you could say he wasnt into it, but what more can Brain do? Do star jumps while he plays drums??  :hihi: As for his facial expressions, the cameras barely focus on Brain enough to even see.

As for Matt Sorum, and the piano, that extra touch of class and brilliance is what made GN'R that extra bit special.


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: nesquick on July 22, 2004, 07:52:18 PM
To tell you the truth I have always had a bad vibe seeing Brain in the band. I remember the first time I watched Rio 3 I tought "I don't feel that guy". Then it was worse in 2002. Like Buckethead, he doesn't fit with the Rock n' Roll soul of the band Guns n' Roses. This is a human problem. and yeah I have always feel him VERY silencious, very tight, like he wasn't part of the project.


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: badapple81 on July 22, 2004, 07:57:01 PM
That's fair enough, each fan connects to a different member and their attitude in a different way.

Steven Adler was always laughing and smiling and having a good time when playing. Hopefully soon GN'R will be back and we'll be able to see more of Brain and what he's all about :)


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: the dirt on July 22, 2004, 08:00:28 PM
Do star jumps while he plays drums??  :hihi: As for his facial expressions, the cameras barely focus on Brain enough to even see.


Does anyone know if Brain tries to do those "evil"-Matt Sorum style faces?


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 22, 2004, 08:00:42 PM
To tell you the truth I have always had a bad vibe seeing Brain in the band. I remember the first time I watched Rio 3 I tought "I don't feel that guy". Then it was worse in 2002. Like Buckethead, he doesn't fit with the Rock n' Roll soul of the band Guns n' Roses. This is a human problem. and yeah I have always feel him VERY silencious, very tight, like he wasn't part of the project.

well, in the case of BH, i think this part of his character.
one guy that did seemed weird was Robin finck, especially at Rio III, he was, like somewhere else, even like not happy to be there... but that's maybe part of his character.

about the money problem, i dont think guns n roses is THE ONLY band that pays their members.
brain is NOT staying for the money, the name/fame maybe, but not the money.

and actually i dont think that Guns n Roses is a rich band anyway, people need to realise that it is not 91 anymore, axl is/was in a lot of trouble, with management and all.
i heard he eats pasta everyday  :o :o :o


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: jarmo on July 22, 2004, 08:01:57 PM
Then it was worse in 2002. Like Buckethead, he doesn't fit with the Rock n' Roll soul of the band Guns n' Roses. This is a human problem. and yeah I have always feel him VERY silencious, very tight, like he wasn't part of the project.

Obviously you missed the VMA02 show.  ::)

He lost his headphones during Madagascar....



/jarmo


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: younggunner on July 22, 2004, 08:05:22 PM
Brain is in the band! HAs been in the band. Will remain in the band!

ARe you that dumb? WHy are you going along with a gayass post from mygnr? Have you ever visited that place? What a joke it is. Go read the threads on that board.

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Like Buckethead, he doesn't fit with the Rock n' Roll soul of the band Guns n' Roses
I always get a kick out of the peopel who bring up this "rnr" stuff. Its pretty comical. Brain is an awesome drummer. I suggest you go get the Primus albums he is on.

Rock n ROll doesnt have a look. GNr is not a grimy rock n roll band. If thats what you are looking for...well then...look somehwere else. That kind of rock is basically long gone. The members in gnr are all talented. They come from interesting bakgrounds and instead of judging them by how they look why dont you wait till the album comes out.

Man o man i cant wait till this album knocks people right in the fukin mouth.....
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Hopefully soon GN'R will be back and we'll be able to see more of Brain and what he's all about
I wish people would do that not just with Brain but with the rest of the band as well. When things get rolling and the silence is lifted and they can talk about themselves, the band and the album...peoples opinions will change....


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Yourmother on July 23, 2004, 01:53:27 AM
im having a hard time believing that brain would say that to someone as well as Bucket tossing the msg dvd


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Butch Français on July 23, 2004, 02:45:35 AM
Do star jumps while he plays drums??  :hihi: As for his facial expressions, the cameras barely focus on Brain enough to even see.


Does anyone know if Brain tries to do those "evil"-Matt Sorum style faces?

nope, Ive seen him play a lot but Ive never noticed him trying to make any Matt Sorum faces :hihi:
he kinda does this thing where he shuts his eyes real hard when he's doing something difficult though ;D


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Fuckin' Gunner on July 23, 2004, 03:00:49 AM
let's get back to the main subject ok?

I will probably shock a lot of people but...

alright after reading that post http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=21130, and that one http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=21119 I am more and more convinced that Brain is a bastard.

After reading this post I'm more convinced YOU are a bastard.

-----------------------------

In the original post on My GNR Forum there's:

Me: Brain, you still with GNR?
Brain: Haha. If they ever pay me
Me: yoyo, What's the deal with Chinese Democracy?
Brain: [he laughs]
Me: Is it coming out anytime soon?
Brain: [rolls eyes] I don't know. I don't really keep up with it.

It lasted about 45 seconds. Just the tone and subtext of his voice made me feel very pessimistic about it.


Just a lie. This conversation would never last 45 seconds... read it as you're talkin with someane, it last 10 fuckin' seconds...


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: DJM on July 23, 2004, 05:49:52 AM
Brain & BucketHead are friends you never know Brain miht just quit


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: PeterCoffin on July 31, 2004, 11:34:29 AM
Afteral Matt Sorum said he's still banging 18 year olds because of his GnR Days.
Hahahaha, that Matt.


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Mikkamakka on July 31, 2004, 12:17:20 PM
[and actually i dont think that Guns n Roses is a rich band anyway, people need to realise that it is not 91 anymore, axl is/was in a lot of trouble, with management and all.
i heard he eats pasta everyday ?:o :o :o

Yeah, I've heard that Axl is always begging for money 'cause he can't afford to pay for petrol to his Lamborghini. Being in GN'R means a lot of money and it's a good job, 'cause you get the fame and a lot of money and you don't have to bother yourself with touring.


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Pinball Wizard on July 31, 2004, 02:04:13 PM
Of course he's there for the money.......why the fuck wouldn't he be? ?

I agree...and I think is a very good money by the way...


Title: Re: is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: AxlGunner on July 31, 2004, 02:09:15 PM
guys, chill out. brain is good friends with fortus and tommy also!! plus, fortus told me himself he went to see Brain and Buckethead play in NYC the other week. Plus, Fortus, Brain, and Stinson have all worked together on stuff like BT's albums. They are all on good terms. I'm sure they're just waiting on Axl to finish the damn album. Other than that, there's nothing really GNR related going on, which is why they don't obsess about it so much. They know that in the end it's axl's project- they're just along for the ride, if you know what I mean.

Also, they all do get paid a lot of money. That's a major reason why they are in the band, and that's why they do what axl says. Small price to pay for a lot of money, eh? It doesn't mean they don't enjoy playing together in the band!


Title: Re: is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: younggunner on July 31, 2004, 03:18:25 PM
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It doesn't mean they don't enjoy playing together in the band!
Its brought up by people who hate this band or whatever because they want show the world that this band band isnt a real band, etc.
No shit! This band is not the conventional band. But you know what. Look at the facts. The members in this band are good friends. All of them. And not just to Axl, to each other. They are always jamming and hanging out together. Thats a band to me. So yea they are under contract or whatver. But thats more for keeping things tight than anything else. Its obivious that Axl want to make this all a secret until it happens. 

The only member that seems to have little contact with the rest of the band is Pittman.

When things finally get rolling things will change though. People will realize that this is a band. They all are excited about touring. Its all about getting the ball rolling. Once that happens things will change. Its all on Axl. When hes ready as Tommy says..."all hell will break loose."


Title: Re:is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: estranged.1098 on July 31, 2004, 06:40:38 PM
Then it was worse in 2002. Like Buckethead, he doesn't fit with the Rock n' Roll soul of the band Guns n' Roses. This is a human problem. and yeah I have always feel him VERY silencious, very tight, like he wasn't part of the project.

Obviously you missed the VMA02 show.  ::)

He lost his headphones during Madagascar....


VMA 02 performance can be downloaded here: http://www.newgnr.com/dloads/stuff/.

I would link to the newgnr.com site but there's no reference to that file in there.


Title: Re: is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Jizzo on August 01, 2004, 12:52:05 AM
I would say the Money is a  huge factor. not to mention if he is on CD, that will boost his career, instead of being refered to as the primus drummer, he'll be refered to as the GnR Drummer, not to mention the FREE SEX from female groupies/fans.

Afteral Matt Sorum said he's still banging 18 year olds because of his GnR Days.

And matts not lying, that guy probably has a huge black book full of 18 year girls who want him.


Title: Re: is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 01, 2004, 03:15:19 PM
1) The guys gotta eat.

2) Get a sense of humor.

 :)


Title: Re: is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: ppbebe on August 01, 2004, 03:46:31 PM
Seems like GNR members are not allowed to joke with GNR fans. :greedy:


Title: Re: is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: AdZ on August 01, 2004, 04:23:21 PM
And matts not lying, that guy probably has a huge black book full of 18 year girls who want him.

The fat ones from community college?


Title: speaking of brain
Post by: scamp on August 03, 2004, 01:29:18 AM
brain apparently didn't make it to the fuji rock festival and was replaced by herb(also from primus) for the giant robot set and Yoshida Tatsuya for praxis.  Don't know if there is a story or not but he was not there.


Title: Re: is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Lord Kayoss on August 03, 2004, 02:46:48 AM
Some how I highly doubt that Brain is only in it for the money.? Granted that I don't know anything about the internal workings of the GN'R camp but how much money could he possibly be making with no album out and for playing the short and cancelled 2002 tour?


Title: Re: is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: Chrill on August 03, 2004, 11:11:10 AM
They get plenty of money.


Title: Re: is BRAIN only here for $$$?
Post by: John Daniels on August 03, 2004, 11:41:27 AM
I don't see anything different comparing Brain to other members. I believe they all get their pay checks. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they are only for the cash. I believe they love/like the music they are composing, although Axl might be the one who makes the last calls about how is it going to be in the end. Bottom of line, it's Axl's band and other members gets the "pay checks" now and then IMO.