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James Brown isnt a Frontman. He's just a singer. To be a frontman you got to be the leader of a group.

Where's Lemmy!?!  :rant:

omg Prince is first.

you know what this means,

probably a page long response from D about how Prince deserves it and that finally a list is right :hihi:.

hahahah we know we know! : ok:

Freddie M should of been #1

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yessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ok here is why prince is number 1

he has fronted two different bands the revolution and new power generation

Prince is a great frontman because he can sing dead on in concert, he gets the crowd goin crazy,he can dance plus he can play guitar so amazingly, he is slash and axl rolled into one

he plays every single instrument himself in the studio, he is prolific and he is a master of many different styles

i know most of u will disagree, but i love prince, axl and jon bon jovi equally, so considering axl's inactivity i think its great he came in at 7 (wheres scott weiland by they way)

anyhow Prince was a fantastic choice in my opinion, there is not one man alive as talented and can do what prince can do

name him i dare u, one guy that can compose,perform and do just everything better than prince, most performers are one dimensional meaning they can sing or play an instrument
prince does it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : ok:

hahahahah you're right, look what happened

Prince number one! what a joke. ::)










Sorry D, I just don't like Prince.

Yeah D took that bait.

I think Freddie could sing dead on in concert, (Until aids took him) and I think his songs that he wrote were far incredible and one of a kind, he could also play piano rock. I would never put Prince that high but then again most of these lists are made by subscribers of the magazine or coked out Music Critics.

freddie doesnt have the catalog prince has, plus he had brian may playin all those kick ass guitar riffs

Prince is one of the greatest guitarists of all time, that pushes him over freddie!!!

spin doesnt seem like a prince crowd guys, honestly, i dont think people who read SPIN would vote prince number 1

prince does it all!

how bout courtney beating kurt out? how stupid is that! she also beat out steven tyler? what the fuck, tyler has to be top 10

courtney love beat out steven tyler? That screws the whole lists credibility as far as i'm concerned. Who the hell were they polling for this one anyway? I also never knew that courtney was a man, considering her recent bouts with gynelocgical conditions....

Karen O. at #20 (directly in front of Ozzy Osbourne and Kurt Cobain) says everything.  This list is a complete farce, and so is Spin for the most part.

Would have liked to see Axl higher (its kind of stretch to call Prince, James Brown and Elvis frontmen, when theyve always been largely singular entities - same for Reznor and Bowie - but whatever).  Of course Weiland is omitted so they could make room for the likes of Karen O., Justin Hawkins, Jack White, Gwen Stefani, Deborah Harry, Chuck D. (who is great, but doesnt belong on this list - Public Enemy will forever be white rock journalists token choice for some sort of rap credibility), etc.  Other artists omitted in favor of Karen O. and co. -

(Assuming they made some kind of Lennon stipulation) - Layne Staley, Eddie Vedder, Billy Corgan, Brian Johnson, Ian Astbury, Black Franics, Paul Westerberg, James Hetfield, Maynard Keenan (Im not much of a fan personally, but Id gladly take his hype over Karen O.s),....Nothing against Karen O., shes good, but an all-time list?  Hell, Id rather see Jack Black on there.  For a singer whos identity is little more than one hit single released within the last year?

Im missing a ton others more worthy, but the point is clear: This list is complete bullshit.  Its about as bad as Rolling Stone leaving Slash, Jerry Cantrell, and Dave Navarro out of the top 100 guitarists...but not forgetting, of course, to put Jack White at 17.

I will admit, however, that I was pleased to see the recognition of Liam Gallagher and Morrissey.

Ok it says frontmen and last time i checked Gwen Stefani was definately a women :rant: Axl getting 7 considering his short lived career, his absence from the scene is quite impressive it's deserved obviously but few times is he recognised for what he truly deserves speaking of not being recognised where the fuck is Dave Wyndorf not in the top 50 :rant: that really pisses me off he's fronted 2 bands, written some of the greatest songs ever....well i guess it's true what people say he is rocks unsung hero :smoking:

Come on...thats a silly technicality.  Its obvious women are included too.

No Lennon or McCartney? WTF?

Who the fuck is Karen O?

Where is Eric Clapton??

Fronted Cream, Derek and the Dominos, Yardbirds (rotating frontmen), solo.....

As far as musical ability there are few people who can even hope to play a guitar 1/10th as good as Eric Clapton

He is in the R&R Hall of fame with three groups and as a solo artist

the thing that should catapult him to number one over Prince is that he never wore a pare of assless pants on stage....

i should win something.

i've always wanted one of those gorillas with the boxing gloves that you usually win from the fair or a carnival or something like that. i never get to win one. everytime i saw someone walk around with one massive one that was the same size as them i felt like stealing it and running. it was just gigantic.

and why do they put boxing gloves on a gorilla, i mean gorilla's don't box, and they don't even box in cartoons either. maybe they should have kangaroos with boxing gloves. because although kangaroos in real life don't have boxing gloves (trust me i live in australia.....and NO i don't ride one to work.........if i had a job) in cartoons kangaroos have boxing gloves. like this one cartoon with sylvester the cat(no not tom) chasin after some mouse, but in this warehouse there's this kangaroo and it absolutely kicks the shit out of sylvester. wait........that didn't have boxing gloves at all, all it did was kick.

cartoons never make sense. like bloody wil e coyote, if he could buy all those acme things why doesn't he just buy some damn food. and no wonder he was so thin you never see him eat. all you see is him with acme crap. i didn't think acme was real, but one day i was listening to my discman, and all of a sudden it stopped. i pressed play and the other buttons but nothing happened. so i look to check the batteries and guess what i find. a fucking pair of ACME batteries, no wonder they didn't work.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway, yeah i think people don't like prince because they don't get past all the sexual innuendos and weirdness and what not which is a shame cuz people just disregard his music straight away. i don't even know most of prince's songs but he's a damn good musician, maybe no1 frontman i dunno depends who's making the list. hell i don't care what someone looks like or whateva, i listen to music. not watch it.  all those idiots that say prince is too gay should do that too. : ok:


i wore a raaaaaaaasberry berret..............just like the kind i bought from a second hand store for example an antique store, but then again antique store's don't sell hats. can you see i'm in a talkative mood tonight.
 ;D

she's the flavor of the month - The Yeah Yeah Yeah's.   I do admit to liking that stupid song :rofl:


There is a positive side to this.  All the teeny boppers and hipsters who are into Jack White, Karen O, will see Axl on this list.   It doesnt hurt to be associated with whoever is cool right now.  At least he wasnt snubbed like Slash was on the RS 500 Guitarist list.

What's strange is that if they are going to include women and solo acts (like Bowie), why did they omit Janis Joplin, Kim Gordon of Sonic Youth, or Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac.   ::)

All these lists are bullshit!! You can't put frontmen like Axl,Prince,Freddie Mercury or Elvis on the same list!! They are totally different and appeal to different people.

"freddie doesnt have the catalog prince has, plus he had brian may playin all those kick ass guitar riffs"

That doesn't matter... lots of people have a guy playing a 'kick ass guitar riff' (Plant/Page, Tyler/Perry, Jagger/Richards). But Freddie REALLY got the crowd going. He could have 100,000 people in the palm of his hand at once. He was the example to follow. So for anyone to put Prince above Freddie is, well, a royal blasphemy.

Being a frontman has nothing to do with instruments the play or what they composed... it's how they control the audience and how they get the audience on their feet and into the show.

These lists are so pathetic anyway. It's just a bunch of peoples' opinions.  ::)

you have never been to a prince concert obviously

Prince has the crowd on their feet the entire time

and its a mix of white,black,latino,hispanic,dominican,gay,lesbian,straight

Prince crosses color lines religious lines he unites his fans into one

and if prince can make me dance in concert that alone says it, cause i dont dance! but i had to at that concert

Prince concerts are an event, he has the crowd goin crazy without using any pyro,light shows,props etc, just  a man and his unbelievable charisma,dancing,musicianship,and showmanship

its a unique experience watchin prince live! he's a frontman and lead guitarist in one, how can u argue against that?

imagine axl rose with the ability to play guitar like slash, that is prince! whether u like the man or not u have to give him his props!

well i think that prince doesnt count, or micheal jackson or so, cause they do pop music.
pop music is by definition popular.
kids, teens, everybody, its like "meant to be loved", "mainstream" and "listener-friendly"

i think it's a lot harder to have the crowd in your hand when u do music like freddy mercury than just regular pop tunes.
cause i'm sure britney has the crowd on her feet too....

Obviously I've never been to a Prince concert. I have no desire to go but that has nothing to do with it. However, Queen/Freddie did all that. They crossed racial lines, religious lines and more. At Live Aid, they didn't have their usual lighting and found they could still perform and they had the audience on their feet. So, what are you trying to say?

Godisdead is right... Britney always has the crowd on her feet too but that doesn't mean anything. She is a pop singer, just like Prince.

anyone that thinks prince and britney have anything in common knows absolutely nothing about music

Prince composed,produced,arranges and plays the instruments on over 90 percent of his music


he is more than  pop singer

purple rain was a rock record, the gold experience was a rock record, he has had plenty of rock songs


that up there doesnt say number 1 rock frontman

it says number 1 frontman which means all genres apply

Prince is the man, well deserving of his place on the list.
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Prince is good and all, but I dont see him as the typical leader you know. Mick Jagger on the other hand, should be Number One. Just about every rock singer wants to be like him. Just watch Scott Weiland, his moves are Mick Jager rip offs, as well as Axl Rose, Steven Tyler, and anyone more you can think of.

Whats more incredible is that he still can get a crowd going for 2 hrs! EAnd the guy is 62! I recommend you to buy their newest DVD, 4 Flicks, it rocks so much and it shows how much of a genius Mick Jagger is.

I thought "Another One Bites the Dust" was a huge crossover, it was a Discoish song that Put Bass on the Map, That song was well recieved by African Americans.  And I think its safe to say Gays/Lesibeans like Freddie...

Yeah i'm with you on that 1 : ok:

My top 5
1)Freddie Mercury
2)Axl Rose
3)Steven Tyler
4)Jimi Hendrix
5)Ozzy Osbourne

Not to mention "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" was a #1 song and has been covered by many people

I cant think of a sporting arena in the US that doesnt play  WE Will Rock You and Everytime I see a championship game end I ALWAYS here WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS over the loud speakers, a We are the champions was all done by Freddie, not to mention it takes some real big balls to go out on stage with short white shorts.

I think Prince has alot of hardcore fans but outside of them to the average rock fan most of them will regonise Queen Songs and Freddie more then Prince.

OK, time to stop the non-GN'R talk here.

Back on topic: I think it's great to see that not everybody has forgotten Axl or think he's in the same league as the other singers from the 80s LA scene.  : ok:


/jarmo

gnr was very different band on la scene in 80's,and nobody couldn't compare Axl with poison,def lepard or some hair band singer.
Guns n roses were bigger band than any hair or alternative band,and gnr was pure rnr band

no doubt jarmo, i still cant believe some people in here said axl is thought of like bret micheals etc

when did those singers close the vma's? when did those singers get asked to headline rir4, when did those singers get 8 figure studio budgets and all the time to record a cd


in the htgth awards that definitely got the award for most ludicrous and dumbest statement ever!

Axl was 7th and behind nothing but legends,which proves he is a legend after all these years

 besides prince who has released probably 20 plus more albums than axl, axl was number 1 amongst frontmen from my lifetime and thats not bad since he hasnt done anything in 10 years!
im sure prince overtook axl with the fashion/dance ratings

i still cant believe jon bon jovi isnt there, thats stupid, jon could be one of the top 10 drawing frontmen of all time, look at the european concerts and the crowds,sold out US tour

Off topic but Jon is good but not greatest frontman. He doesnt get the crowd into as much, Its hard to be a frontman who can work the crowd when you are always playing guitar. If he was he could of made his solo career huge and wouldnt have to go back to the band.

On topic. Considering only 4 studio albums of new material. Also the fact we havnt heard anything new original material since 91 and a failed 2002 tour. He's not looking too bad at #7

Oh come on,give me a break! Prince is ,without a doubt,a musical genius,but he NEVER made a song like NR or Estranged. Purple Rain was a decent ballad,but it's nowere near the two (and many more by GNR). I don't care if Prince can do both Axl and Slash's jobs if the two each do their job better that the little guy.

Not in reference to Prince, but... quality over quantity, eh?  ::)

wow and the booker floyd award for taking a post out of context goes to......ericalyn!!!!!!!!!! this was my entire post for those who havent seen it

"besides prince who has released probably 20 plus more albums than axl, axl was number 1 amongst frontmen from my lifetime and thats not bad since he hasnt done anything in 10 years!
im sure prince overtook axl with the fashion/dance ratings"


read the post, im sayin prince being more prolific than axl probably helped him rank higher, that was actually a huge compliment to axl stating that with only 3 full length lps and one ep of originals he is still the number 1 rock frontman on that list and that prince is the number 1 from my lifetime on that list but he has done alot more than axl

read the whole post dont take a small section and make it look like im sayin axl sucks because prince has done more, thats very not cool to do that on this board!!!!

i wasnt saying jon should be number 1 im sayin he should be in the top 50! how can u argue jon not at least being in the top 50

bon jovi have sold over 100 million records worldwide!! they sell out everywhere! they are phenomenal live and everyone knows who jon bon jovi is, u gonna sit here to my face and say karen o whoever the fuck that is should be higher than jon?

Stop talking about how great Prince is in the GN'R section.

It's not really what this board is about.  :P



/jarmo

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in all fairness i mentioned axl a bunch also! lol

whoever thought a bunch of GNR fans would sit around discussing prince! :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

its amazing!

D,i agree with you.axl had 3 albums with his band,and he was rock legend.
imagine what would he be with 6 or seven albums.rock legend number 1

Gotta say that Prince is one of the greatest. It?s difficult to compare, but he sure should be up there some place.

In the July issue of Classic Rock mag, Axl was #7 there too in their list of rock's greatest frontman.  The only other person in the top 7 of both lists is Robert Plant.  

The entire CR list is posted in Reply #2 of this thread:
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=13834


P.S.  Way-back-when, I remember hearing a reviewer describing Prince's look as "a member of the Munchkin Lollipop Guild who fell into a vat of pubic hair."  :rofl:

To avoid more of your rambling freak outs, I'll include the whole quote in here. And, where did I diss Axl or insult him anywhere in there? Where? Right. Anyway, calm down... it doesn't matter!  :)

once again u didnt read my posts

i said the way u butchered my post into that small quote made it look like i was bashing axl

hhehehehehe, jarmo's hounding people to stay on topic.

meanwhile i wrote a post that went sooooooo off topic its not funny. it seems to have slipped under the radar he he he  :smoking: