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I was just browsing the internet looking for GNR news and found this.  

I don't even know if this has been mentioned before...

Judging from this site, Paul DeCarli has worked with major bands like Metallica, Kiss, Bon Jovi... and will now do (or has done) Digital Editing for Chinese Democracy.  He expects the cd to be released in 2004.

Take it for what it's worth, I just thought I would share this with you guys...

The link is: http://home.pacbell.net/decarlip/editing_resume.html


PS: Could someone explain what Digital Editing is, what does it do for the sound of a record?
Thanks!!

http://www.nettleinghamaudio.com/faqs/mastering_4.html

What is Digital Editing?


Digital Editing is the process in which the songs are.... well... edited. Sometimes after having the chance to live with a mix, you may decide that the song has one too many choruses, in most cases, this can be fixed in editing. Certain timing problems can also be fixed. These types of fixes are completely program dependant and will not work 100% of the time.


As a mastering engineer I prefer to do the song fades as opposed to having them done in the studio during mixdown. Fades can be extremely smooth when done in editing. I should mention that some mastering engineers do not like to deal with these types of issues. Many prefer to receive the mix master in the exact sequenced order with the appropriate amount of spacing between each cut. This is something you should ask your mastering engineer, as some charge exorbitant fees when editing. I have actually added instruments and vocals to final mixes during mastering on occasion, so many things are still possible at this late stage of production.

Thanks a lot for eplaining this...

Late stage of production? Yes.... Maybe just maybe...

So many things are still possible? Damn it!!

Dosen't they also refreshes the sound?

Yes, they sometimes overproduce or cut away too much some of those people, guees axl was biting his nails when handing over the thiing

A little update:

I mailed Paul Decardi a few hours ago.

I asked if he could share anything about how it was working with Axl and such.

I was surprised to get a reply but not surprised by the answer: he is contractually bounded to keep his mouth shut.

Nonetheless it was nice to get a reply though...

Someone just tell me this - does editing come after the mixing? Is mixing complete before editing takes place?

If so..... then fuckin  : ok:

@#$%Muther

Either way I think it is a good sign.

Another thing.....

He's the digital editor and thinks it should be out 2004. Obviously, this isn't random guesswork.

Anyone who thinks it's nowhere near done must now concede that it is nearly done, and it's not 'Axl's laziness' or 'unrecorded vocals' that are holding this up.

@#$%Muther

IMO ttheres a few scenarios that can take place regarding CD....

1) Tommy cuts his tour short and they release the album in NOv/DEC with a tour

2} Tommy continues with his tour but they decide they wont tour until next year and they release CD NOv/DEC...

3) They dont release CD this yr {most likely}

4) If thats the case we wont see CD till about MArch/APril.....  :(

"Papa Roach - Upcoming Album
Digital Editing
Expected Release - May 2004"

Not very up to date, or?

I noticed that, but then it seems it was even longer ago that he became involved with CD which is even better  : ok:

@#$%Muther

So basically this dude was just brought in to digitally edit a couple songs right?

Because as we all know, Slash said Axl only recorded vocals on 2 tracks and that he knew that for a fact.

Well, at least now we know a great amount of work has gone into making this a masterpiece, and it's not just Axl dicking around tinkering things year after year. Because with this news, and the news that that compose Marco Belstrami, or whatever his last name is, it's obvious that that $13.5 million from Geffen is being put to good use.

Why don't you shut the fuck up and realize that Slash knows hardly anything about CD?

I think he was being sarcastic YFOA  ;)

 :rofl:
I never get tired of this one.  One of the best running gags ever on HTGTH!

Editing usually comes after mixing, but there are cases where mixing is considered part of editing, as you can often use the same equipment for both jobs.

/Mike

Sorry. :)

It does say something interesting on this site:

http://home.pacbell.net/decarlip/editing_resume.html

It says that it was last updated on 4/18/2004. I just wanted to bring that one up.

Betting on 3, but hoping for 2  :( :-\

I do believe we will see Chinese Democracy bfore th year is over the rumors seem to betoo strong not to be true.

yes, the force is strong in this one lol.

GNR for fucking ever.

If you go back to that site, November has been removed from the date.  Now it only shows 2004.  Things that make you go Hmmm...  It shows first hand that this board is closley monitored.

Everything points to a late 2004 release,but I still don't believe it

Since when did it say November in the first place? I never saw November on there.

When this post originally started.  Either today or yesterday.  I could be wrong though.  I was  :smoking: and :beer: yesterday ;)

Wow...

...hey, you want to buy a sense of humor with that helmet?

About the whole slash thing, did any of you ever think that maybe Slash meant axl only has two tracks with vocals that slash played on?

The only real "rumor' here is the annoucement put out by Vh1 and since propagated by other www sites. The only thing that adds any sizzle is that about a week or so prior to Vh1 airing BTM, we had the Rumourboard, Melodicrock, and Dmoz.org saying something about fall or november.....and, to point out what Mysteron noted in another thread, neither major media wire service (AP or Reuters) picked up the story even after BTM airing...I'm not trying to be a buzzkill, but it's not as strong as we've deluded ourselves into thinking. Doesn't mean it won't happen either. I'm personally hoping Geffen really is trying to grab Axl by the gonads this time to get it out. He's had more than enough time to perfect his 'vision' any more tweaking and fiddling will NOT turn the tide on the critical and fan reation towards this album when/ if it comes out...sadly, b/c of all the delays, Axl has already set a certain contingent of the press/fans against him no matter how good the material might be. :no:

Why do ypu people bother with these sites/stores posting dates of CD? They mean jack shit. Until we get a press release from GNr, nothing is official. Why do you tease and tourture yourselves? Just relax. I know it sux but the only thing you should really believe is what come from GNR. On of these days it will come. ANd it will come in more ways than we can handle.

The VH! thing is something to cautiously look at and see how it develops. If we dont get anything by sept/oct then we are looking at next year. Thats the unfortunate reality. We will probably learn a few new things along the way when Tommy releases the album and goes on tour. He will be doing interviews and stuff so maybe he will say some other stuff.

Otherwise until we get it from GNR consider it garbage.

Everyone,

Please do not e-mail Mr. DeCarli anymore.  He said, in a response to me, that he has gotten several dozen e-mails in the last few days.  There is no need to be rude and bombard him with e-mails, especially when he is not at liberty to discuss his involvement with GN'R.  

Thanks.

Ali

I was one of the people that e-mailed Mr. Decarli. I asked him how come it had been so long since he had updated his site and whether or not he could tell me anything regarding the working he's doing with Guns N' Roses.

This was his response:
Thanks for your email.
I'm very sorry, but I make it a policy to not talk about projects until
they
are released. I hope you can understand that it is an issue of security
and
confidentiality for my clients.
If GnR want people to know anything about the album, they will release
the
info (who am I to second-guess them?).

Check back for a web page update within the next month.

Hoping you understand,

Paul "Poly915" DeCarli

PS. How did you find my web page? I've had several dozen GnR inquiries
over
the last few days and was wondering if someone linked me to a larger
GnR
site or search engine. ;D;D
---

What do you think I should tell him? 8)

I got the same.....

.... and I apologised on behalf of you all  ;D

You pesky kids, I always have to go around clearing up after you  ;D

He probably changed the date because of all the e-mails. To be fait I didn't even ask about the date, I just asked if he had started his work on CD/yet to start/finished.

Unfortunately, no cigar. Respect to the position the man's in tho.  :smoking:

@#$%Muther

Geez....people, I know we're all excited and desperate, but when someone says the have a confidenitality agreement, they ain't gonna break it for some internet fans. I think keeping the heat on management and/or record comapny types is another thing though, let's em' know there's still significant interest in this thing.

That's a good point. I'll try it.

I sure hope Axl has all the people working on his album squared away. If not we might all scare anybody else away.

If people didnt want hundreds of GnR Hardcore fans e-mailing them they wouldnt let it leaked they have been working on CD, until it comes out they should know by know that GnR fans are crazy

Well, I just think this guy is lucky, cause he's had to of heard more of chinese democracy than I have.

Very true never thought of it like that. Fuck them all I hope all you people out there do bother them.

Yes,I got same answer

Okay Axl.

Sorry about that you fucking control freak.

[puke]