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Title: If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Johnnyblood on July 06, 2003, 10:51:19 PM I remember reading somewhere that either Slash or Axl had wanted to do the MTV Unplugged show in the early-90s, but whichever one it was that wanted to, the other one didn't. I guess it was another sign of the impending split.
But I always wondered how such a show might have turned out - would it have even worked? Even back then I had some problems with Axl's voice, so I really wasn't sure he could pull off the acoustic You're Crazy, not to mention some of the other nutgrabbers he occasionally had problems with post-80s. Would they have picked boringly obvious songs like Patience and November Rain? Would their less obvious material have translated acoustically? Anyway, I thought it might be interesting for us to speculate how that show might have gone. Keep in mind that this was when Nirvana was every music writer's wet dream and Guns was considered dead and bloated. So this program would have been a sort of comeback for them, something like Elvis's 68 comeback perhaps, when everyone thought the Beatles had made him obsolete and that incredible performance (the inspiration for Unplugged, by the way) aired on NBC and reminded everyone of the pre-Hollywood Elvis that changed the course of history. It was possibly his finest moment. Could Guns have done that? How would they have sounded without the huge amps? What kind of things would Axl have talked about, Nirvana? Setlist? I know that they did something like this on the Skin n Bones tour, but Unplugged would likely have to have a bit more advanced and featured a more varied setlist. My only setlist wish/guess is that they would have done Breakdown. edit: My other "only" request is Jumpin Jack Flash - love the acoustic demo. Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: estranged88 on July 06, 2003, 11:09:31 PM did you just call november rain BORING!!!!!! [rant]
........i am in shock ok its over.. they would proabably play the ballads, becaue they would be easier to translate to acoustic, and all the songs from lies minus one in a million, because it was to "controversial" they certainly had the talent to do it, but i don't think it would have sounded as good as a regualar guns show.... on the other hand they could have blew nirvana out of the water. my best guest for a set list Patience used to lover her your crazy dont cry november rain yesterdays 14 years mr. brownstone sweet child of mine since i dont have you ( not sure if this was out at the time your refering to) estranged Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Johnnyblood on July 06, 2003, 11:17:29 PM did you just call november rain BORING!!!!!! [rant] ........i am in shock Sorry, no offense! I'm just more of Sweet Child O' Mine guy. Or Estranged. Or Don't Cry. Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Will on July 06, 2003, 11:54:02 PM My guess, for a MTV-type of setlist would have been:
- Mr. Brownstone - Patience - Pretty Tied Up - Don't Cry - Estranged - Knockin' On Heaven's Door - November Rain - You Ain't The First - Ain't It Fun - Breakdown - You're Crazy - Used To Love Her My wishlist would have been: - Patience - Don't Cry - Estranged - Knockin' On Heaven's Door - November Rain - Ain't It Fun - Breakdown - Crash Diet - Don't Damn Me - The Garden - Civil War Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Will on July 07, 2003, 12:17:29 AM How in the hell could you play "Estranged" acoustic? I don't even think Slash could successfully pull that one off. I was actually thinking about a "piano only" version -- like November Rain demo. Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: slashsaxl on July 07, 2003, 02:22:39 AM How in the hell could you play "Estranged" acoustic? I don't even think Slash could successfully pull that one off. I was actually thinking about a "piano only" version -- like November Rain demo. a piano version of estranged, that would have been something else, something i've always wanted to hear. i think i read somewhere (probably on this board) that slash is the one who didn't wanna do the mtv unplugged back then, i could be wrong. rock n' roll Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Jizzo on July 07, 2003, 02:29:41 AM Dont forget about dead flowers
Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Atlgunner on July 07, 2003, 08:32:30 AM Axl and West Akreem doing Yesterdays.
Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: estranged88 on July 07, 2003, 08:59:13 AM did you just call november rain BORING!!!!!! [rant] ........i am in shock Sorry, no offense! I'm just more of Sweet Child O' Mine guy. Or Estranged. Or Don't Cry. ...its cool, november rain is one of my favortite songs, but i can see how some people would find the first 5 minutes boring, but i feel the end more than makes up for the "somewhat" dull begining....i personally like the pianno though Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Victor on July 07, 2003, 09:35:06 AM I would have loved to hear "Double Talkin' Jive" done unplugged... I mean if we're fantasizing I may as well wish Izzy back into the band.
Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Will on July 07, 2003, 10:41:55 AM a piano version of estranged, that would have been something else, something i've always wanted to hear. Yeah me too...it's really more a fantasy than anything but I think it would be awesome. Now, I don't think it will ever happen with the new band... Concerning Dust In The Wind, BF, GN'R's version was not a Kansas cover, but a Todd Rundgren cover...I guess that's why it was so "different"... ;) The original version was recorded by Rundgren on the album: "Something/Anything?" (1972). If you want to learn more about Rundgren, visit that website: http://trconnection.com (http://trconnection.com) Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Booker Floyd on July 07, 2003, 11:37:10 AM Concerning Dust In The Wind, BF, GN'R's version was not a Kansas cover, but a Todd Rundgren cover...I guess that's why it was so "different"... ;) The original version was recorded by Rundgren on the album: "Something/Anything?" (1972). If you want to learn more about Rundgren, visit that website: http://trconnection.com (http://trconnection.com) Much appreciated [ok] Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: jrs2001_99 on July 07, 2003, 12:12:25 PM I don't think acoustic versions of the big ballad trilogy would work... I would much rather hear acoustic versions of some of the appetite rockers, even if the pace was reduced slightly, like the version of "You're Crazy" on Lies.
I think an acoustic "Mr. Brownstone" would rock, as would "Paradise City" and "Rocket Queen." There are loads more that I would lie to hear acoustically transformed but most have already been mentioned. [beer] Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: MR.BROWNSTONE on July 07, 2003, 05:17:29 PM Maybe the setlist would be like this but, not in this order.
You're Crazy Mr. Brownstone Patience Used To Lover Her Knockin On Heavens Door November Rain You Ain't The First Don't Cry Shotgun Blues (I don't think they would have played it because they never played it live), Think About You Back Off Bitch Bad Obsession I don't know how many songs they could play if they only had one hour. Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: kujo722 on July 07, 2003, 05:47:04 PM since i dont have you ( not sure if this was out at the time your refering to) It was around but not available to the fans yet. At the show that I saw in Raleigh/Durham in May 93 they played it over the sound system when they were setting up the stage and Axl sang part of it as the lead in to Sweet Child O Mine. Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: MR.BROWNSTONE on July 07, 2003, 05:53:36 PM since i dont have you ( not sure if this was out at the time your refering to) It was around but not available to the fans yet. At the show that I saw in Raleigh/Durham in May 93 they played it over the sound system when they were setting up the stage and Axl sang part of it as the lead in to Sweet Child O Mine. Yeah they played it for an intro to SCOM a few times. Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Crashdiet on July 07, 2003, 06:04:14 PM I'm from hickville canada "saskatoon, saskatchewan", and when GnR came through on their skin and bones tour they actually did an acoustic set... where they pulled out a couch, acoustic guitars, and matt even scaled down the drum set
Used to love her, your crazy, knockin on heavens door, patience, and november rain The november rain was the best version i've ever heard.... slash did awesome acoustic solo's, matt had a huge gong, and axl did the most amazing piano solo i've ever heard him do... Man i wish I had a copy of that An unplugged would have kicked ass!! I've always wanted axl to do a solo show... just him and a piano... I think that would be killer!!! Title: If GN'R actually did MTV Unplugged... Post by: Dave_Rose on July 01, 2004, 10:08:24 AM Ok we know there is a bootleg of unplugged CD but if they actually did MTV Unglugged what set list would you pick...
1. Patience 2. Used To Love Her 3. You're Crazy 4. One In A Million 5. Sweet Child O' Mine (Would be very interesting on acoustic my friend done it sounded cool with changed of course) 6. Think About You 7. Knockin' On Heavens Door 8. You Aint The First 9. November Rain 10. Dont Damn Me 11. Yesterdays 12. So Fine 13. Dont Cry (Orginal that would kickass) 14. Paradise City (That would be very interesting as well lol dont ask how that would work out but anything is possible) Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Mikkamakka on July 01, 2004, 12:09:13 PM I think you don't use your fantasy enough, or you underrate the genius of the '87-'93 era players. After hearing what they did with Move to the city and Mr. Brownstone, I think they could have performed almost every song on acoustic. Maybe even My World ;) And I think they are still able to do it: listen the acoustic Slither - hell, I've never expected them to play it that way, but it was awesome!
My setlist (I think they would have played mostly the 'obvious' songs with some surprises and covers): Mr. Brownstone You're Crazy Patience Pretty Tied Up Bad Obsession My Michelle Jumpin' Jack Flash Double Talkin' Jive Used to Love Her Civil War You Could Be Mine (I'm sure it'd have been great!) The Garden Paradise City Knockin' On Heaven's Door Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: DJM on July 01, 2004, 06:32:00 PM I got an unpluged album from the barras(if your not from scotland its a market) its got on it
1 Dead Flowers 2 You aint the first 3 Youre Crazy 4 Used to love Her 5 Patience 6 Knockin on Heavens Door 7 One in a Million (supposedly that was the ony time they played that song) 8 Used to love Her (Better version than the first version on the cd) 9 Patience (First time ever played) 10 Mr Brownstone 11 Move To The City 12 Jumpin Jack Flash 13 November Rain (Just Axl playing the piano and vocals no other instruments played im sure its a demo) Its quite a good album for ?5 Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on July 01, 2004, 09:49:18 PM this would have been the set list most likely
Dead Flowers You ain't the First You're Crazy Used to Love Her Knocking on Heavens door November Rain Keep in mind the show would be half an hour. And as much as you thought axls voice was messed up Cobain sounded like shit on the nirvana unplugged Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Eduardo on July 01, 2004, 10:06:48 PM this would have been the set list most likely Dead Flowers You ain't the First You're Crazy Used to Love Her Knocking on Heavens door November Rain Keep in mind the show would be half an hour. And as much as you thought axls voice was messed up Cobain sounded like shit on the nirvana unplugged Its an 1 hour show. And I think Kobain sounded good in the unplugged show. In fact thats the only Nirvana album I can listen too, because it doesnt have those shitty screams Cobain used to do. Its a great album Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Ignatius on July 01, 2004, 10:47:08 PM I remember reading somewhere that either Slash or Axl had wanted to do the MTV Unplugged show in the early-90s, but whichever one it was that wanted to, the other one didn't. I guess it was another sign of the impending split. But I always wondered how such a show might have turned out - would it have even worked? Even back then I had some problems with Axl's voice, so I really wasn't sure he could pull off the acoustic You're Crazy, not to mention some of the other nutgrabbers he occasionally had problems with post-80s. Would they have picked boringly obvious songs like Patience and November Rain? Would their less obvious material have translated acoustically? Anyway, I thought it might be interesting for us to speculate how that show might have gone. Keep in mind that this was when Nirvana was every music writer's wet dream and Guns was considered dead and bloated. So this program would have been a sort of comeback for them, something like Elvis's 68 comeback perhaps, when everyone thought the Beatles had made him obsolete and that incredible performance (the inspiration for Unplugged, by the way) aired on NBC and reminded everyone of the pre-Hollywood Elvis that changed the course of history. It was possibly his finest moment. Could Guns have done that? How would they have sounded without the huge amps? What kind of things would Axl have talked about, Nirvana? Setlist? I know that they did something like this on the Skin n Bones tour, but Unplugged would likely have to have a bit more advanced and featured a more varied setlist. My only setlist wish/guess is that they would have done Breakdown. edit: My other "only" request is Jumpin Jack Flash - love the acoustic demo. As much as I enjoy your posts JBlood, your comments about Guns being dead and bloated in the early 90's make me wanna take you back in time to 1992 to prove you wrong. Anyway, as this already belongs to the Dead Horse section, I'll carry on with the topic. Had GNR done an unplugged, this songs could've made the setlist: In no specific order... Patience Don't Cry Used to Love Her Brownstone Move to the City Dead Horse Knocking on Heavens Door Yesterdays SCOM You Ain't the first Jumping Jack Flash Since I don't Have You. Edit. I just looked at some of your answers, and my guess and DJM ( the unplugged from Scotland) was quite similar.... Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Gazzathecoigne on July 02, 2004, 03:22:32 AM Seriously guys, you've got to have You ain't the first in there. I play that at partys all the time, when my guitar comes out at 3am. Total acoustic classic, and a kick in the teeth to any bitch!! Lol
Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: SlashFan on July 02, 2004, 03:27:52 AM If they had did unplugged here's what songs I would have want to have heard.
any order would be great Patience SCOM Paradise City Move To The City November Rain Used To Love Her You're Crazy Mr.Brownstone Dead Horse Jumpin' Jack Flash : ok: Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: Freya on July 02, 2004, 01:44:44 PM There is that one unplugged show they did in 1987 at the Limelight or CBGBs? Maybe someone knows for sure. But they did Move to the City, Mr. Brownstone, Patience, One in a Million (only time ever), and Used to Love Her. It's a good, short show.
Title: Re:If they had done Unplugged.... Post by: luciano on July 02, 2004, 08:41:55 PM *****
in my dreams, guns n roses unplugged would have Izzy on board, it would be only the five of them (ok, put dizzy there if you have to), woud be played with the same feel that they played that gig on CBGB 87, and would have a setlist like this one: Nightrain - yes, this is the ultimate acoustic song Think About You - this one should be on EVERY gnr setlist -- Band says hi -- Bad Obsession - another one who would explode, specially with Izzy charming backing vocals Dead Flowers - because it is so good, because Izzy got Used to Love Her from it, and because Izzy would love to play it. You are Crazy - insane one Move to the City - it really works accoustically Dust n' Bones - Izzy sings it Ain?t it fun - this one should sound different -- Little pause -- Patience - with the "original" whistle axl did on CBGB?s Jumping Jack Flash - just check the studio demo and learn "How to improve vocal lines in one lesson with professor Bill Bayley, from Indiana" Sweet Child o' Mine - wooooow -- break 1 -- November Rain - guitar version - sorry axl, no piano One in a Million - this song is really good Sweet Caress - this song should really be sung by axl & izzy together ****** Luciano |