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The Perils Of Rock N' Roll Decadence => Duff, Slash & Velvet Revolver => Topic started by: TyRod Tulip on June 17, 2004, 10:44:44 PM



Title: Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: TyRod Tulip on June 17, 2004, 10:44:44 PM
I think FTP has the potential to be a really huge crossover hit in the same way SCOM was.  I'm not saying the song is as good as SCOM (its not IMO), but it could create so many more fans for VR resulting in more album sales and maybe it will put Contraband back in the #1 position sometime in August or September (assuming it falls out of 1st place before then - which it obviously will).  Sustaining that kinda of success and publicity over a 4 or 5 month would allow them to tour arenas by October.

If they release FTP in August and play it well live on the MTV Music Video awards on August 29th, they could push their success to that next level.

Does anyone agree?  Or am I being to 'fanboy'ish here?

-TyRod-


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: DRUNK on June 17, 2004, 11:42:42 PM
Number 10 on the album should be the next single if they want to go the ballad route.

What makes you think they'd play it at the MTV awards when they haevn't even played any ballads on the tour?  Ballad phobia maybe?


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Eduardo on June 17, 2004, 11:49:38 PM
Number 10 on the album should be the next single if they want to go the ballad route.

What makes you think they'd play it at the MTV awards when they haevn't even played any ballads on the tour?  Ballad phobia maybe?

They have played Fall to Pieces I think in every show of the tour


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on June 18, 2004, 12:10:25 AM
Number 10 on the album should be the next single if they want to go the ballad route.

What makes you think they'd play it at the MTV awards when they haevn't even played any ballads on the tour?  Ballad phobia maybe?

#10 on the album, do you even know the name of the songs, You could of said, "You got no right" thats the name of the song, and they have -played FTP at every show on this tour.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: NickNasty on June 18, 2004, 01:00:24 AM
Smart move, great ballad with a great chorus! Agree with you Tyrod, this COULD be a big crossover hit, but I hope they aren't releasing it strictly to get that coveted teeny bopper set :P


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: vicarious existence on June 18, 2004, 01:10:22 AM
I agree TyRod, great choice for the 2nd single.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Falcon on June 18, 2004, 01:20:46 AM
Make no mistake, if FTP doesn't crossover and thrive at Top 40, Classic and Real Rock formats, the album could very well lose it's steam.  

Just my opinion, but I don't think FTP will have near the success as "Slither" with the likes of KROQ and the Modern Rock market in general in the US.  This song isn't the mid tempo type tune that the likes of Audioslave have had success with at that format, it's a full on power ballad...

It'll be interesting to watch...  


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Jizzo on June 18, 2004, 01:22:38 AM
KROQ started playing Fall to Pieces today. I almost crashed the car when I heard it.

BTW, the dj was like this is the first time we've played kansas in a long time....in the form of Velvet Revolver


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Falcon on June 18, 2004, 01:29:46 AM
KROQ started playing Fall to Pieces today. I almost crashed the car when I heard it.

BTW, the dj was like this is the first time we've played kansas in a long time....in the form of Velvet Revolver

That's great news, I didn't think they'd bite.  KROQ is obviously behind VR, which is huge as well...

The Kansas comment is hysterical... :rofl:

Thanks Jiz, keep us updated on the KROQ front.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Jizzo on June 18, 2004, 01:58:15 AM
I'll try, but its really hard to push that button when everyone else wants classic rock.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Eazy E on June 18, 2004, 02:50:49 AM
This is the type of song that could get airplay on Edge, Classic Rock, Modern Rock, and Mix stations...  It's the perfect second single.

I say following this up with another hard rock song, and then closing off with You Got No Right is the smartest move.  It's probably the best way of keeping the record consistently fresh in people's minds.  Although YGNR is the best song, it's not as accesible as Fall to Pieces IMO.

 : ok:

Hope they shoot another video soon.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: D on June 18, 2004, 03:49:36 AM
i think they shouldve went with you got no right and then the full on power ballad fall to pieces

however i think loving the alien is superior to fall to pieces

both are good, but i like lta better


i can see ygnr on the radio and a video and stuff so maybe they will do it 3rd


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Skeba on June 18, 2004, 04:16:54 AM
i can see ygnr on the radio and a video and stuff so maybe they will do it 3rd

I don't think the band wants to put out 2 ballads in row... I think they want to be known as more of a rock band... Though there?s no way for me to know this, so the scene you described is totally possible.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: matt88 on June 18, 2004, 06:55:29 AM
I think FTP has the potential to be a really huge crossover hit in the same way SCOM was.  I'm not saying the song is as good as SCOM (its not IMO), but it could create so many more fans for VR resulting in more album sales and maybe it will put Contraband back in the #1 position sometime in August or September (assuming it falls out of 1st place before then - which it obviously will).  Sustaining that kinda of success and publicity over a 4 or 5 month would allow them to tour arenas by October.

If they release FTP in August and play it well live on the MTV Music Video awards on August 29th, they could push their success to that next level.

Does anyone agree?  Or am I being to 'fanboy'ish here?

-TyRod-

I agree with that 100%

If FTP is a big hit and they play MTV VMA'S they will no doubt take their career and the album to the next level.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: AxlGunner on June 18, 2004, 11:14:58 AM
i played some velvet revolver in my apartment last night with my buddy in the room and the tv on while he was working on his computer, and when fall to pieces came on by halfway thru the song he was whistling along to slash's guitar riff.

he knows who VR are, knows i like em, recognizes the songs on the radio, but isnt necessarily a VR fan and hadnt heard FTP before, so i think its a good sign that it kinda subconsciously was able to get into his head so easily  : ok:


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: TyRod Tulip on June 18, 2004, 11:30:59 AM
I agree AxlGunner.  As simple as the lyrics are on this song, the guitar work and the soothing nature of the song with attract a crossover fanbase that should launch these guys into the stratosphere.

I am so impressed by the promotion of this band.  Somebody has their act together here.  I would say that the promotion has been flawless.

-TyRod-


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 18, 2004, 12:39:12 PM
FTP is boring, real boring.  And the lyrics are just not that good. I heard it on the radio the other day, and I was like meh.  I still think loving the alien should have been the next single, its the best song on the album.  


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: vicarious existence on June 18, 2004, 01:12:11 PM
Hope they shoot another video soon.

Someone on the VR boards says that the video for FTP is to be released on August 10th... not sure of the person's credibility though.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: TyRod Tulip on June 18, 2004, 01:33:41 PM
FTP is boring, real boring.  And the lyrics are just not that good. I heard it on the radio the other day, and I was like meh.  I still think loving the alien should have been the next single, its the best song on the album.  

I actually agree with you a bit here Dave.  I think the lyrics on FTP is a bit boring, but it has more of a potential to have a crossover appeal than LTA.  I, too, think that LTA is one of the best songs on the album, and I'd love to see them release it eventually.  However, I think at this moment, releasing FTP is their best move.  Let's face it, they haven't made any mistakes with their promotion yet so they must know what they're doing.  I think you'll see that releasing FTP puts them into arena gigs by the end of the year.

-TyRod-


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Rebecca Duff Rose on June 18, 2004, 01:59:43 PM
You Got No Right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm completely banana's over it!!!!!!!!!

 :smoking:  :beer:  :smoking:

VR Rock!


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: jarmo on June 18, 2004, 02:11:23 PM
Hope they shoot another video soon.

Someone on the VR boards says that the video for FTP is to be released on August 10th... not sure of the person's credibility though.


It's true.

That's the plan now anyway.


/jarmo


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Court Jester on June 18, 2004, 02:39:54 PM
That?s quite long time to wait.
I think they should do it quicker just for keeping it real.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: PhillyRiot on June 18, 2004, 04:44:55 PM
When I saw VR in Philly, people were talking about Fall to Pieces when leaving the show.  It is a great song, and perfect example how Slash's guitar solos have such a great emotion to them.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: Ignatius on June 18, 2004, 08:33:57 PM
That?s quite long time to wait.
I think they should do it quicker just for keeping it real.

I disagree. 4 months may seem like a long time but Contrabad is currently number 1 on the charts. Looks like it's gonna be on the top ten at least for a month or two. By then, FTP will be released as a single/video and will probably climb the charts again.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: D on June 18, 2004, 11:56:21 PM
LTA is out there somewhat so i can kinda see it not being a single

but if they dont release YGNR as a single they are idiots!

that song is the perfect song to be on radio and tv and is the type of that would convert so many fans


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: tomass74 on June 20, 2004, 10:06:34 PM
Bad choice for a single. This is one of my least favorite tunes on Contraband.  I could give a shit less about crossover appeal.


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: mr_yoshimaroka on June 21, 2004, 12:21:12 AM
on a side note, does this song remind you of Yesterday a little? While the intro plays, i always think axl's gonna kick in..."Yesterday way..."


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: McClane on June 21, 2004, 08:05:18 AM
FTP is not in my top 5 songs of contraband...I wished an another song to be release a the next single...

Ballad: YGNR or LTA
ROCKER: Dirty little things, Headspace, Spectacle...

I'm a little bit dissapointed about FTP...


Title: Re:Fall to piece - Confirmed Next Single
Post by: starchild_666 on June 21, 2004, 09:54:22 AM
good song, good choice...