Here Today... Gone To Hell!

If you visit rollingstone.com you will see that VR are the current feature. Last month the feature was also the cover story.  You can read the article by visiting rollingstone.com

Here's the article:

Revolver Loaded

Refugees from Gn'R and STP are clean, sober and in the pocket

By GAVIN EDWARDS

Duff McKagan is explaining how to have a good time backstage. McKagan, formerly the bassist for Guns n' Roses, is something of an expert on this topic: He has consumed drugs and drink in such vast quantities, his pancreas exploded. "You get third-degree burns on the inside of your intestine and your stomach," McKagan says. "For a lot of people, they split their skin open to get the steam out. I had morphine in this arm for the pain, and then I had lithium in this arm for the d.t.'s."
So, a little weather-beaten at age forty but improbably still alive, McKagan demonstrates his latest concoction: "You take the Total cereal and you mix it with the granola, then you add the rice milk, and you've really got something."
All of McKagan's bandmates in Velvet Revolver have similar tales of excess from before they got straight. Guitarist Slash, also of Guns n' Roses: "We took the days of the charter 727 to a whole new level of debauchery. I'd be aisle-surfing with a cigarette in my mouth when the plane took off -- we obeyed no aviation rules whatsoever." Guitarist Dave Kushner, formerly of Dave Navarro's band: "I knocked out all my teeth when I was drunk and running across Sunset Boulevard." Lead singer Scott Weiland, formerly of Stone Temple Pilots: "I had a fucking horrendous heroin habit." Drummer Matt Sorum, also formerly of Guns n' Roses: "I've never been arrested like Scott, but I guarantee I did more drugs. I've been to Colombia. I bought the shit for three dollars a gram."
Backstage at Detroit's State Theatre, five wardrobe cases are shoved close together. On top of Slash's case is his trademark top hat. McKagan's case is decorated with a picture of a princess, colored by one of his two young daughters. Weiland and Slash also have young children; the tour will take a break for a month this summer when Slash's second child is born. Legendarily sybaritic movie producer Robert Evans came up with the baby's name: Cash.
In a corner of the room, Slash quietly noodles on his guitar, playing the lick to David Bowie's "China Girl." He talks about how Bowie dated his mom after Slash's parents split, why he thinks John Fogerty is a prick and the wisdom gleaned from a life on the road: "There's nothing worse than a bunch of guys on a bus watching porno movies. It triggers a chain reaction of debauchery and hospital visits."
Sorum struts into the room, cheerful and loud. "This is the part of the night where I take my pants off and get my cock out," he announces, and proceeds to do just that. He looks much leaner than he did during his Guns years; he says he lost thirty-five pounds after he stopped drinking. "A good cigar is better than crack," he says jovially. Weiland applies his eyeliner silently, hunched over his mirror, enjoying the camaraderie but remaining a little apart.

Nobody would have guessed the five members of Velvet Revolver would all be alive in 2004, much less making music together as good as their powerhouse new album, Contraband. But they all seem genuinely pleased to be part of a band, sober and well-behaved. They're all mature enough now to know that being a rock star is fundamentally a ludicrous occupation but immature enough to want to do it anyway.
This can't be a supergroup," says Kushner. "Otherwise I wouldn't be in it." The former members of Guns n' Roses emphasize that they didn't form this group to thumb their collective nose at Axl Rose -- although, as Sorum puts it, "Axl Rose was a training ground for everything that you could possibly ever imagine to test your patience." Guns n' Roses' last real album was 1993's The Spaghetti Incident? "We got off the road and we spent, like, three years fucking around," Sorum says. "I think Axl just got afraid." Rose got ownership of the band's name, and in 1996 he fired Slash, announcing the move with a bizarre fax to MTV (it began, "Due to overwhelming enthusiasm and that 'dive in and find the monkey' attitude . . . "). The same fax promised the imminent release of "a new Guns n' Roses 12 song minimum recording with three original 'B' sides"; nearly eight years later, little more than the title, Chinese Democracy, has emerged.
Sorum says Rose fired him the following year for sticking up for Slash. "I said, 'We need Slash.' He said, 'Fuck that, I'm Guns n' Roses, I don't need Slash.' I said, 'I think you're mistaken.' " Sorum shakes his head sadly. McKagan quit soon after, leaving Rose with a posse of hired Guns. Work on Chinese Democracy continues to this day.
"I don't know any more than you do," Slash says of Chinese Democracy. "There's only a couple of songs with vocals on it -- I know that for a fact. But it will come out one of these days." Since then, Slash has played with his band Snakepit and lent guitar parts to everyone from Rod Stewart to Ray Charles. Sorum was doing production and soundtracks, and McKagan worked on an undergraduate finance degree at Seattle University, pulling down a 4.0 GPA his freshman year. (He's still a semester shy of graduating.)
In April 2002, the former Gunners reunited for a benefit concert, with Buckcherry frontman Josh Todd on vocals. Discovering how much they enjoyed playing together, they recruited Kushner, fired Todd and started looking for a lead singer . . . and then they kept looking, and looked some more. They placed ads reading "Unnamed artist looking for singer-songwriter somewhere in the realm of early Alice Cooper/Steve Tyler, the harder-edged side of McCartney and Lennon." McKagan says they listened to every tape and CD they were sent, well over a thousand, ranging from Axl sound-alikes to William Hung sound-alikes.
"We'd start optimistic, and after six hours we all just wanted to slit our throats," claims Slash.
Sorum says, "I was the most frustrated. I didn't make the money Slash and Duff made with Guns -- Axl's done everything in his power to fuck me out of royalties." So they practiced and auditioned singers such as Travis Meeks (Days of the New) -- they knew they could mount a one-shot tour with just about anybody on vocals but wanted something more potent. And then Scott Weiland became available.

"Stone Temple Pilots never had an official breakup," Weiland says, "but the split was horrible." As Weiland tells the story, he and guitarist Dean DeLeo almost got into a fistfight in the dressing room at their last gig; on the previous tour, they had gotten high together, so when DeLeo cleaned up and accused Weiland of still using heroin, Weiland found it hypocritical.
Weiland's addiction was messy, public and, with some frequency, resulted in his being arrested. In 2000, he finished nearly a year in prison after violating his probation for prior drug charges. Perhaps even more problematical, he had come to hate rock. "But I can't dance without a loud live band with that kinetic energy," he says. "I need the air moving." Weiland's wife and McKagan's wife, both former models, are friends -- they colluded to have Weiland join the band. In May 2003, five days after Weiland announced the contracts had been signed, he was arrested for narcotics possession.
The band publicly reaffirmed its support for Weiland, but Sorum admits, "It was emotionally hard. I had to let myself not get my hopes up, and having been there, you know that nothing you say will do any good. That person has to get honest with himself about what's going on in his life." Weiland was sentenced to three years' probation, and then last October he was arrested on charges of driving under the influence of alcohol and drugs after a traffic accident in Hollywood -- charges he still disputes. That time, the court ordered him to a detox program and six months in a group-living center.
"Duff was a huge inspiration to me," Weiland says. "A lot of people who don't know him, they just think he's an alcohol-- and drug-addled rock star married to a hot chick. In actuality, he means what he says, he says what he means. He's a great father, a loving husband, I like the way he handles his finances." McKagan introduced Weiland to the program that has gotten him clean: an intense martial-arts retreat in the mountains outside Seattle. McKagan's own analysis of his relationship with Weiland is more concise: "You can't bullshit a bullshitter."
I'm sick of talking about heroin and cocaine," Weiland says. "I'm sick of talking about what it's like to be in the back of a cop car." He's sufficiently tired of being the punch line for addiction jokes that he recently posted an open letter on Velvet Revolver's Web site, saying that after this Rolling Stone article, he plans to take a long hiatus from doing interviews. So I ask him what he wants to make clear.
"I kicked my heroin habit a year ago, in May," he says. "I only used three or four times in the last year, and I've been completely abstinent for over six months. It's been printed that I was arrested for drunk driving. The alleged DUI that I got, I passed that field sobriety test, but I told them I was on my prescription medicines for bipolar disorder, so they had to give me a urinalysis. And I am not on fucking work furlough." This last misconception particularly rankles Weiland: He wants it understood that he's not serving time, he's in court-ordered rehab. There's an 11:30 curfew; two nights a week, he can stay with his wife and two children. He has permission to tour, although he has to fly back to California about once a week to stay in the group home. "I'm being a good boy," he says, "but I'm tired of group living. If it were up to me, I wouldn't be living in a sober fraternity house."
It's after midnight. The inky hills of the Midwest roll by us as the tour bus speeds down the interstate. Weiland talks about other things, like growing up in suburban Ohio, when a snow day meant an all-day session of Dungeons and Dragons. He slowly relaxes, and even laughs. No matter what we talk about, though, he keeps bringing the conversation back to addiction and its consequences, and his shoulders keep hunching up with tension.

Weiland's wife, Mary, kicked him out and filed for divorce, telling him that if he got clean, maybe she'd take him back. (They reconciled before the divorce was finalized.) "She sat on my chest and said, 'I don't need a fucking kid, I need a fucking man.' To get her back, I had to figure out how selfish I was. I'm not an asshole -- I'm a good guy most of the time - but I was this completely selfish person." Weiland's brand of selfishness was the sort where he seriously considered suicide.
The Velvet song "Slither" describes those self-destructive urges. Weiland was caught in a tape loop of addiction, and suicide felt like the only way he'd be able to stop. Then he realized he couldn't kill himself because of how it would affect his children, which made him even more miserable; he didn't seem to have any options at all. "Eventually God intervened," he says. "In the shape of a black-and-white car."
Against their better judgment, Velvet Revolver are doing a "meet and greet" in Chicago. This means they sit behind a table in the Riviera Theater's basement, signing autographs for radio-station employees, record-company reps and three Chicago Bears. Sorum, as usual, is the most jovial. Slash, sweet but shy, clearly would rather be playing guitar -- he always worries before a show that he'll forget how.
Handed a Velvet Revolver photo to sign, Weiland starts doodling on his own face, using a Sharpie to give himself a big mop of black curly hair. He shows off his handiwork, saying, "It's kind of weird, Slash, how you and I have the same hair."
Contraband has some excellent songs, especially the confessional power ballads "Fall to Pieces" and "Loving the Alien," but too many fast-and-sludgy songs that blur together. But onstage the music has an extra sheen of sweat. The group plays most of Contraband, plus two STP songs and three G n' R songs, including "Mr. Brownstone" and "It's So Easy" (selected not because of their druggy lyrics but because Weiland could handle those parts of Rose's vocal range). They even cover Nirvana's "Negative Creep" -- although Kurt Cobain couldn't stand G n' R, and the very notion might have given him a stomachache.
After the show, Sorum, Kushner and McKagan go out to the empty theater to meet some fans who have lingered. One of them knew McKagan years ago, and she tells him a story about hanging out a decade earlier, when he was dating her friend Bobbi, who's currently dating Def Leppard's Joe Elliott. McKagan had fallen and fractured his ankle. As he was being wheeled into the hospital, McKagan threw money at the group, shouting, "Go buy a twelve-pack!"
McKagan listens in blank amazement; he doesn't remember it at all. So much of his life then was spent in an alcoholic blackout, he doesn't even remember marrying his first wife. "I was dating Bobbi?" he says finally. For Velvet Revolver, life as sober adults has many surprises, not least how their drunken reputations have lasted longer than their hangovers.
Sorum, as usual, doesn't worry about it. "If people have a problem with us not snorting coke and drinking Jack Daniel's? Fuck 'em. They ain't snorted half of Colombia, like I have."
(Posted Jun 16, 2004)

Thanks for posting that Fretzo. Cool article. It's the first article I've seen where Sorum comes off looking not so much like a dink. He's a little too proud of his drug history, I think, but in this article he seems to have some amount of originality. As a whole they come across as five guys who work well together and can trust each other.

Ray Charles is the cover

Wow, pretty blunt. At some point I guess he decided he was running the show. That comment right there shows that Matt had no pull-there's no "we" here, Matt, and that GNR(which is Axl) does not need Slash.

gotta say slash is full of shit

axl only has vocals on 2 songs and thats a fact?

maddy,the blues,c.d.,rhiad and silkworms

thats 5 unless he hasnt done the vocals for these

lord if he only has 2 songs with vocals, we may be waiting longer than i thought


great interview otherwise

i really am likin scott the more i read about him

matt still comes across as arrogant and kinda prickish, i like his drumming but he's my least fav member

Here's the pics from the hard copy of the mag:
RollingStone>>Issue 952/953>>July 8-22, 2004
Photo credits:  Matthias Clamer; Thom Elder/Jeffrey Mayer Photography; David Atlas

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Velvet Revolver take to the roof of the Roseland Ballrom, New York, May 2004.
Gypsy comment:  JUMP!!!  :P

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Weiland, Kushner, Sorum, McKagan and Slash (from left):  Back in the studio, where they're weaving more than just dreams

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So fresh, so clean:  Weiland, Slash and McKagan (from right) onstage at Roseland in New York, on May 26th

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=13287

Read that dork face

I can't believe you are calling people stupid.....

Read this (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=6).

 ::)


/jarmo

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH!

ITS MY DUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH MY GOD- HOW HOT DOES HE LOOK- I NEVER BUY ROLLING STONE- BUT NOW HELLOOOOOOOOO

Hee hee!

Oh wow!!!!!!!!!!!  :love:  ;D  :D  ;)  :)  :-*  :yes:  : ok:  :beer:  :drool:  :smoking:  :peace:  :love:

I love you mr DUFF McKagan!!!!!!!

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WHAT A ROCKSTAR LOOK!
Boy they are Gunner go alllllllll the way- please Duff take me!  ;)
Slash looks so cool- i mean they all do- even Matt- hee hee! (JOKE!)
Duff looks the best though!
Look at his hair!  :drool:
And er......Dave's bald!  :o


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LOOK AT DUFF'S COOL CHEEKY FACE!  :-*

SLASH IS WEARING HIS TOP-HAT!  :beer:  :smoking:  :beer:
(There is hope!)

Scott looks soooooooooooooooooo mint!   :drool:

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If you look in the background- THERE'S DUFF!
How hot!  :yes:  :-*   :love:  :drool:  :beer:

Love Slash's pants!  :smoking:

I thought you were posting the link to the seperate thread that he created on this same subject (which is even more stupid)... ::)

Cool pics. :smoking:

May I correct you,  SLC, Very Coool Pics!!And the article is pretty good to!!Slash wearing the top hat!!!!!Yeaaahhhh!!!!
Thanks Fretzo for the article and Aunt Gypsy for the article!!!



Baby Slash//