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With all of the publicity that Old GN'R, VR, and New GN'R have right now it would be a very dumb move not to get CD out as soon as possible.  Think about it.  Greatest Hits went to number 2 on the charts and is selling way better than anyone expected.  VR is debuting at number 1.  Also, they are coming out with the a Behind the Music soon.  You know if CD was released in the next month people would buy it just to see what is better.  Also, hopefully, CD is very good and it can take off on its own.  MTV has also been talking about some of the new GN'R boys as well.  If Iwas GN'R or its management I would "strike while the iron is hot".  GN'R old or new and VR are as hot as ever right now.  Come on new GN'R (Axl especially) put your balls on the table and let the fans hear your shit!!!! : ok:

I agree. I said this a while back too, that he should use the VR publicity to his advantage.

But we both are doing something wrong here....we are thinking logically. That is not (from experience) the way he works.  :P

Ever since the GH album was announced people say this, "now is the best time", etc.

IMHO the things you mention will help so little they can be safely ignored.

Nice sentiment, but Axl never does the 'common sense' thing. It may be very likely at this point that, legally, he can't do anything....despite the new spate of rumors picking up here, I really don't expect anything until the end of the year or maybe even 2005...by that time, the legal issues would hopefully be worked out, and he will have distanced himself for well over 2 years from the tour disaster. Also, has anyone considered that dropping CD now would be counterproductive to nu-GNR's interests? With all the positive publicity VR is getting now, Axl would be buried regardless of how great his material is...by distancing himself by some several months, he will hopefully have more of the spotlight to his new work and band if he releases the album.

Peopel will buy it no matter what. There is a core group of people that will buy the album whenevr it gets released.{Old gnr fans, new fans,rock fans,etc}....

We have been saying how GNR should release the album now because of "momentum", or "now is the time". We go through it every year.


When its time, it will come. Although I would have loved to have CD in my hands already so we can begin to discuss the new chapter of GNR, in a way Im glad the band is doing things on their terms.

I'm glad that they arent releasing the album and going ahead with the "plan" until they are ready to commit to that plan and execute that plan.

And what Im most grateful for is the core of players that have remained. For the most part, except for Bucket   :(, the band has been stable for the past 4 yrs. They have represented well and have remained low while taking a shitload of abuse. They havnt surrcumbed to the pressures of releasing the album for the sake of releasing the album.

I used to try to determine when we would see the album, but I have given up on that. Theres no need to wait and worry about it. When its ready to come out, we will be the first to know and we will get a nice juicy press release.

The amazing thing is, Axl has been able to keep the hype and mystique around this album despite saying or doing nothing all of these years. They have had a failed tour and still there is anticipation and curiosity to see what they have in those vaults. Albeit, some wanna see this band fall flat on there face, there still is interest.  Its obivious to the band and to the record company. That is why they can do things when they want to

BUt most of all, we will hopefully get the ultimate gift for waiting. A great Cd that is truly special. That has everything you would want in an album, from note to note. So till we can discuss the album,lyrics, songs, band members,articles/interviews etc.,  back to the soap opera....

The media will not forget to mention the 2002 tour before Guns N' Roses tours in America again, be it 2005 or 2010.

Wait a minute... did I just say 2010  ;D?

i agree with slc. We the posters make the mistake of thinking logically when it comes to gn'r. Logically they would have used rock in rio to release the cd. Logically they would have released the cd after the vma's and during the NA tour. Logic has never helped us much when it comes to gn'r. I think that alot of these times, things were actually planned but axl got cold  feet. I just wonder how much of the public humiliation has played a part in him not doing anything. Is he too gun shy from bad press that he thinks nothing he ever does will please anyone? Or maybe he is fine with his life right now and doesn't really desire to be on top again?

Very well said : ok:I know most of us here are the true GN'R fans.There are some here that say alot of bullshit things about GN'R and VR.A true fan is loyal to both bands and wishes the best for both bands,not comparing them to the old GN'R.I know that I will buy CD or whatever it will be called when it comes out :smoking:

Although I agree GNr do not do things logically, I think we the fans have expected things to happens, such as the above, when in reality it wasnt going to happen....

IMO, Cd was done around Rio and yes they could have released it. BUt then came along Mr. Buckethead. When he came he added a lot more material, better material. SO they held it back....

Then comes the Vmas/2002 tour...What did Uncle Axl say after the VMA's? "We'll go back and do some more RECORDING and then start the American leg of the tour"{something like that}....So how could GNR have missed the chance to release CD if the CD wasnt even finished?

I truly believe they were gonna do the hwole launch at Rio. Actually I know it for a fact. BUt then Bucket left. SO thats where we stand today.

My point is how can GNr have missed thses opputunities when in reality the CD wanst even finished. Now if it was finished, then yes, rio/vmas/tour would have been perfect timing for the release. BUt they arent finished...so we have to wait

A fact?

axl hasnt been thinking for a long time so why would you think he would try now?

Yeh axl could use the VR publicity to his advantage. There would be a lot of talk of who sells more each week between GN'R and VR. It would be good to use this oppuertunity.....but people will buy it anyway when axl releases plus i'm not to sure the album is even finished.

Axl will hit us some time soon I dont know why just what I have been reading lately I think 2005 something will happen as we have been reading but hey Axl is justing waiting and doing the final touches.

just hurry the fuck up GNR :P

my CD positiveness ratings has gone up a few bars lately :)

Yeah, Axl should definitely use VR to his advantage, and I think we might see something now that the album is out...

Well from experience we have learnt he doesn't work at all..... :-\

How the **** would you know? When was the last time you spent a "Day With Axl Rose"?

I definitely agree there with you. Axl ( or Guns N' roses) have never, ever made any use of the expression " common sense". That's probably why he/they became so big to begin with.

VR probably will probably have another out before (JOKING)

Axl should just put like 5 song record of what has been done but I say make people wait  :D

I'd like to 2nd that...Just how do you know anything for a fact?

Never mind...I don't even know why I'm asking.  You talk a lot of shit in your posts...why should I be surprised that you claim to know something.  

No one knows anything.   The people who do know aren't talking.

Axl is a decent guy so he will let VR have their 5 minutes of fame. Christmas would be a good release date.

I talk shit? When do I talk shit in my posts?

As for what I said, I dont claim to know anything. But over the years I have done my own homework and have my own lil connections. Some of them actually lurk on this board some of them don't. From time to time I find out things. Not big things, just lil snips. ANd just piece them to the puzzle.


I dont claim to know anything more than anyone else. Because for the most part, I dont. The only time I attempted to report a rumor on any of these boards was a non gnr related rumor...the superbowl show. Along the way I do my own research on GNR and talk to people. Other than that I just post about well as you put it, shit....

Hope you enjoy my shit....

IMO, CD will sell more then Contraband, if its ever released... I hope. VR is a great band but Scott is just not that great of a singer IMO.