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No real message needed here to start this. I have just been curious about this. You think Axl is proud of them at all (you know like a small part of him, deep deeeeeeeeeeeeeep down), or does he find them laughable? Or maybe something else. Im curious.

Axl doesn't seem to care for anyone - not his fans and deffinetly not people who abandoned hima decade ago

He might not even know about them - he didn't know about the European tour in 2001 after all ::)

Hm, probably feels a little threatened, i think he's just waiting to see how they do, testing the water so to speak.

If he does, he shouldn't.  Axl has more things to worry about than Velvet Revolver.  Even proving everybody wrong shouldn't be on Axl's list of priorities.  Finishing and releasing this record he's been telling people about for the last several years should be of paramount importance to him.

I think Axl has nothing to worry about at all. Dont get me wrong I liked VR - Contraband I liked it a lot but when I think of songs like Maddy and The Blues etc I prefer them to Contraband so cos Axl has taken his time till its perfect but I am just itching to hear it

You know, I really didnt mean this so much as a competition thing for him (though that has to be figured into it), so much as I did in terms of them being his old compadres and how things are turning out for them.

I don't think he hates them or anything, but I doubt he cares.

I think he will say, when asked, that he knows nothing about it, and has no interest in it.

I think, in reality, he keeps abreast of what's going on, and has followed VR from the begining.  I'm sure there are mutual friends, as well, passing info to BOTH sides about the others goings on.

I don't think it will, in the slightest, effect CD.  I don't think Axl "cares" in that way...in a competition sense.  I think it's more like Buddah suggests, sort of....just keeping tabs on his former bandmates.

at first IMO he would have been pissed off but no doubt he's gonna or already have listend to Contraband, bloody oath he would have.

i reckon he got a total boost of confadence when he hears it :hihi:
CHI DEM is gonna have so much more detail n' shit, thats why i beleive Contraband was rushed way to fast, Axl will proove that it was all worth the wait!!!!!!

Who knows...

Axl could be freaking out with envy and rerecording CD or not heard one single note and have no plans to do so.

That's what makes Axl, well...

Axl.

I dont think he cares about it at all... he prob hasnt and wont listen to the cd...

He knows about it coz its in the music news... and Axl keeps up with whats new in music..... he has too, its his job and very exsistince..

To us were just fans, part time muscisians, and music lovers.. Axl Has to stay current or he gets left behind.. So im sure he KNOWS about the album and the success its having but im sure he doesnt care and is just thinking, "my band will get there soon too"

The only thing he would care about was if he read any VR articles, and the parts where it take shots at him like:

"VR is basically Guns N' Roses without having a pain in the ass of a singer"

"Contraband is done, and axl rose is still holed up somewhere"

That's all he'd really care about IMO

id think he'd laugh at shit that says VR is basically Guns N' Roses because that is absolute bullshit n' a half.

Gunners are alive n' well ;)

I think axl would be glad to hear VR because it just reinforces what he's known all along... slash and duff N matt do what they do... and don't get me wrong VR is cool... but they fail to see a vision for something beyond tried and true Rock N Roll.... nothing wrong with it... its just axl wanted to go somewhere where they were incapable of going...

VR just confirms what axl has felt inside all along

I don't know if Axl gives 2 shits about VR--he seems to be rather self absorbed so unless something is happening in his little kingdom, I doubt that he notices...hopefully all the "therapy" of that 2002 tour (playing that real old shit)has allowed him to acknowledge, embrace and release all that old, old baggage and his energy isn't being eaten up by the past...let's hope : ok:

Well, back to the main topic,I really think he does.

He may be threatened by them. VR is poised to take #1 on the Billboard 200. Or perhaps he is mature enough to realize it shouldn't be a competition. Who knows.

I think he cares, in some sort of way, but I dont think it will effect Chinese Democracy. Also Contraband is a good cd, but like Axl said "Go Buy those guys' solo records, (Or in this case Contraband) there are neat ideas and parts there, but they wouldn't have worked for a Guns N' Roses record."

I have heard Axl saw tapes from the El Rey show last June, and that he supposedly likes it. It was either El Rey tape, or demos VR made before the album.

I think it's safe to say Axl will not comment on Velvet Revolver.

how did you hear this???

I really doubt he heard any demos they made before the album... thats next to impossible....

how did you hear this???

I really doubt he heard any demos they made before the album... thats next to impossible....


Why would it be impossible?

If he did hear contraband i am sure he was taking notes, well not exactly notes, but probalby writing down better lyrics to pass on to Scott.

 :rofl:

...no doubt about it.

I think Axl cares about Velvet Revolver and Contaband about as much as George W. Bush cares about Michael Moore and Farenheit 9/11.

Thats to say, not at all.




-B

Axl cares about VR. Bush cares about Moore too.... its just they are not so stupidly obvious about it.  ;)

Agreed...I seriously doubt he does care about them, although that #1 debut might give him  some pause....or it should tell him that if he releases CD, with the NAME GNR on it, he could do some serious business. But we can't ever pretend to know what the fuck is going on in his head. :nervous:

It could mean 2+ more years until we see CD. And it would suck even more than Contraband. I hope Axl doesn't know anything about VR from his spider hole.

i think axl's thinking that VR is predictable and concentrate on CD's "finishing touches" even more now

To be honest i remember hearing that on the official VR site or the VR forum. It was last summer, and i didnt know about Axls current situation enough to think much of it. It could have been just a false rumor.

I think that Axl's entire purpose in life is to show the world that he could make not only a great record, but the best record since Appetite.  And to do it without the old band.  

That is why CD is not out yet, he's waiting for VR to make their statement so that he could answer back with his.

I really think he is fully aware that he wants to blow Velvet Revolver away.  


out :peace:

This makes sense to me. In what I would imagine is a twisted way of looking at this, which in the world of GNR and Axl, you kind of have to.
Shit Uncle Axl probably was waiting to hear Contraband.


In all honesty, I really feel Axl deeeeeeeeeeeep (and let me say this again, deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep) down, feels happy for his old bandmates. They have been through a lot with each other, long before actually making it. I like to think he feels good they have this second chance, and have this opportunity to make the music they have always wanted (and argued) to do.

But now its his chance, to do, that which he has longed for, and worked so hard for. Now its Axl's time to shine.

So to answer my own question, I think he does.

Axl has mentioned in past interviews about having a certain interest in listening to his former-bandmate's music.

And I have no doubt that he would like nothing more than to absolutely crush all of them, including Velvet Revolver, with Chinese Democracy.

who said he heard the el rey show??????  VELVET revolver sucks and i really dont think axl would like it.  

     
    I don't know if Axle cares - but VR is a positive thing for the present state of rock - we have been tuned down and shouted to death since Korn started all that. and since when is being a little whining nerd cool ? emo bands, hip- hop metal is a waste of tape, time, and hard drive space ! classic hard rock with melody has always ruled.  :-* :-*

Axl has to be taking note that Contraband is #1 on the Billboard charts.