Here Today... Gone To Hell!

whats crackin
im curious about the gunners' past drug abuse...

they're certainly a notorious bunch when it comes to this topic, but im not sure if i've seen many descriptions of the actual proportion of their habits..

i read somewhere, for instance, that Duff used to drink like 8 gallons of vodka a day...  i dont really know about the validity of that..but im wondering if anybody knows some of the hard numbers/figures that relate to this issue.

we're probly all aware of Duff's pancreas exploding, or that time when Slash n Izzy (or was it steven, or duff??) saved Nikki Sixx when he OD'd.  but are there any other crazy stories?


peace.

btw - saw Slash n Duff the other day for the first time ever.  FUCKING IN SANE
most high-energy show i have ever seen in my life.  slash's top hat rules! :peace:

I know Duff said he was drinking a gallon of vodka and doing an 8ball of blow a day.  Slash was drinking two fifths of Jack a day, so much his tongue started turning black.

Well all members of GNR have admitted to doing drugs....we all know slash was rumored to drink 2 fifth's of jack a day at least back in the 80's and 90's, Axl apparently did drugs at his own pace and never considered himself an addict.  I'm pretty sure most in the band did heroin and coke and steven adler sucked weiners for drug money.  that's about the extent......i think to this day Duff drinks non-alcoholic beer, slash has cut down on jack extensively,  i don't think matt has commented on it....and Axl seems to be clean of drugs.

crazy...
what's that in Litres?
sorry, im Canadian, we use the metric system (mostly)!
 :beer:


an 8ball a day keeps the doctor away  : ok: ..

(more like  :drool:)

Hmm, maybe Michael Jackson's nose is a result of a lavish and lengthy cocaine habit... this just occurred to me..

It was Slash and Steven in '88

Matt went to rehab for a coke problem.  I still can't believe Steven admitted to sucking dick for coke.  It's bad enough doing that but admitting it is totally fucked up take that shit to the grave.

A gallon would be like the big thing of milk you buy.....i think that's what you were asking.....not good on the conversion stuff myself.  Anyhow you freaked me out by imaging michael jackson on coke.  that would be interesting to say the least.

Axl claimed he only dabbled in the excesses for 'creative purposes', and looking back, him keeping his shit together as far as being sober basically asserted him in his control over the group...

- Steven, tight with Slash, kicked for drug addiction.
- Izzy, probably the only known bloke to actually have some comprehension of the change in Axl, left due to Axl's conduct and his heroin addiction.
- Slash and Duff have both said that staying in Guns would have killed them.

Nuff said.  :beer:

...and i suppose thats Axl's fault too. :confused:

How they are all still alive (well i assume Axl's still alive :nervous:) is one of those little miracles

a guy named Jimmy Page that works for a huge company called www.syncrolite.com , who also claimed he knew axl and the gunners, said that the reason the last tour got cancelled was because axl couldn't handle the preassure of being on the road... he said that as soon as axl got back on the road he got so heavily into the coke thing that he didn't even know when to hit the stage. he said that the philly gig never happened because axl was locked in his hotelroom all fucked up on coke... this was something that happend all through his rockn' career... he said alot of shit about other gunners aswell, but for obvious reasons i won't get into it all... i didn't know if i should believe this guy or not so i asked if i could quote him on it at a message board and he said yes so i guess the fucker atleast have some balls... cosidering his position the rock n' roll world.... through the years...

i wonder what will happen to me know... :-*

Last time we heard this story the offending substance was valium (sp)

So its not the first time this version of events has been mentioned......

It has to be something like this though - it explain the abrupt ending of the tour but also why Axl never said anything about it - it wlould be rather humiliating to admit he could no longer take the strain and had tripped out on drugs alone in a hotel room...

Now that is something to put on the resume!

 :hihi:

Slash OD'd and died one time..

Er.....how can he die, and be alive today.Corectly if I?m wrong but can?t you die just once?? :hihi:

Well, at least it?s obvious thet it was because of a drug problem....


Yeah, after bashing Steven,Slash, Duff and Izzy sooooo much because of a drug adiction, saying: Oh, I was too fucked up with coke so I couldn?t play in the concert would be toooo humiliating....

Well, imagine you are fucked up and every one every night offers you some other "thing" was jsut too tentatious....



Baby Slash//

I don't believe that about Axl on coke. He has spoken on the record about his feelings on drugs, mainly that they interfere with his productiveness. Though Axl had issues with being "on the road" during the Illusions tour, there was no hint that he used "coke" to alleviate his problems. Last i read, he was using therapy and new age medicine. I highly doubt he would just pick up a coke habit (a drug, if i am not mistaken, he was never THAT keen on to begin with) in his 40's...
correct me if i'm wrong, but i was under the impression that the tour was cancelled because they hadn't sold out (or even close to) the majority of their post NY gigs... does anyone know for sure if this is true or not?

haha i'm sorry but the story about axl not taking his valium and barracading himself in his hotel room in philly cracked me up.....i can't remember the story fully but didn't the guy say that del james and such were knocking on his door like Axl take your valium or something......the stuff that gets tossed around i tell ya  :hihi:

Chicago 92 Axl said "for me now, it aint about doing cocaine or how much vodka I can drink or how I can drink somebody else under the table.. that shit dont work for me no more" or something very similar! I would guess that Axl has done it.

Pasadena 12/30/87 Axl tells the audience during his introduction to KOHD how he overdosed and tells the audience what he took.. cant remember now.. a couple of things and a bottle of jim bean..

No doubt Axl tried it all.. but he seemingly, and other members inc. Slash have said that aside from cigs, Axl has always managed not to become addicted to anything.

At least, publically.

True.. as I said he seemingly has..  : ok:

Oh yes, sorry, apology... :-[ : ok:

 :peace: :-* Oops didnt mean to appear rude  :-\

I think Axl has way too much pride to ever admit to being addicted anyway. Just my opinion.

No, Axl was definitly not doing coke on the 2002 tour, but to be honest, I wish he did do coke because it would have given him the strength to complete the tour (if he did indeed cancel the tour because of something personal, and not Clearchannel cancelling it for its own reasons etc.)


And where the fuck did Steven admit to that shit?  I've never heard that, but if it's true, then that is majorly fucked up.

 :o :o

1. Thats the stupidest thing I've ever read!
2. You would want AXL to do harm to himself for your benefit?

Well, that's surely a misinformed, warped perspective that I did not expect.  Doing coke is not "harming" yourself.  Lots of people do coke and are perfectly fine.  Had Axl completed the tour, he  would have had more credibility.  More credibility=more people buying tickets to future shows.  Now, so many people are scared that he'll cancel, that he is going to have a hard time having successful tours.  If coke would have helped him finish the tour and establish credibility, he should have used it because he have then only helped himself.  Do you see where you've misunderstood?

Excuse my "warped, misinformed" ignorance as I don't do coke.


"Lots of"? So not ALL are perfectly fine, meaning some people do harm themselves no?


Im failing to see how coke would have "helped" him finish the tour exactly.. please help me understand this..


Finishing the tour would have increased the credibility yes, but doing coke? You think that would increase his credibility?  ???

Cocaine is a stimulant.  It gives confidence, energy and a general good feeling.  It is a good tool for certain people.  People don't use drugs just to get "high" or " fucked up".  A lot of people use drugs as something to help them carry on with every day life.

coke screws up your voice pretty bad, he wouldnt be able to sing a whole show... so i think theres no way that was true!

We all know it's not true, but coke won't screw up your voice.  Coke just makes your voice numb feeling, and lumpy.  Like it's hard to swallow.

Sounds great   :o :o :confused:

Great! Start doing drugs with the risk of addicition to get you through life!  :rofl:

Im sure the reformed Steven and Duff would agree with you there.

What? When did you hear this? That is fucking sick and desperate. Yuck i could never do that.

Duff was having 1 gallon of vodka a day, and and 8th of an ounce of coke a day.

And Slash was having 2 bottles of jack a day in the late 80's.

Drunk, cocaine is a harmful drug. It causes massive heart damage, not to mention damage to the central nervous system.

If you live too "fast", you will die fast as well.

I would rather someone be healthy instead of  super charged like a crazed maniac.

Keep your body clean and healthy, cause you're the one who has to live in it everyday.

What a horrible thing to say!  >:(


What the hell? What planet are you from?

I know quite a few people who do coke, and if you call being deathly skinny, and so weak that even walking takes so much strength - and so much more that I can't even explain - perfectly fine, then you must be pretty fucked up.  >:( (But I guess if it gets you through life, it's okay, right?)

Maybe it doesn't affect everyone in the same way? I don't know.

Sorry I'm a bit touchy on this subject because I know a lot of people who go through this, and what I said above is just an example of the shit that I've seen. (And sorry if I'm rambling - it's late here so I have an excuse.)

   
That's waaay fucked up! Here's a lesson to us all: say no to drugs!  :rofl:


:o


Only Slash can die and live to tell about it, I suppose.

I remember Axl saying that he did herion for 2 weeks straight with this broad and after the 2 weeks he just stopped.  He said when he needed to do a job or something he wouldn't let drugs interefere with that.  

hmm, all these posts about heroin and cocaine...

im reminded of someone, oh yes, SCOTT WEILAND

when i saw Velvet Revolver the other day i figured it was a strong possibility that Scott would take the stage still with the needle dangling from his vein...

on a serious note, however..  scott really needs to clean up his act..
otherwise Velvet Revolver will be auditioning for a new frontman in the very near future...

i wonder if scott were to kill himself with drugs, if slash and the boys would entertain the idea of hiring a sober frontman...
...maybe Axl would qualify!

...too bad a full reunion is about as likely as Getting DEALT a Royal Flush......oddly i was once alllllmost dealt that very hand..   just the Queen was the wrong suit or something...   poor!


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Which has absolutely nothing to do with this topic, seeing that this thread is about Guns N' Roses and drugs and shit like that. Not Scott Weiland. But of course, this will probably end up as yet another VR-bashing thread. Lay off, jeez.


And if you had half a brain you would know that Scott has been clean for about a year.


I would hope they'd choose someone half way sane. That rules out Axl right there.

Yeah that was around 86 when he was trying to get a record contract and was meeting exuctives to discuss that matter.

He stopped on a saturday after 2 weeks of heroin and on the following monday he had the metting. That musta been pretty fucken hard to do.

hi everyone this is my first post here!

"Slash OD'd and died one time.."

I guess what really happened was that slash OD'd and went into a coma.
this is very common and if the drug user receives proper medical treatment there is nothing to worry about...

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"But of course, this will probably end up as yet another VR-bashing thread. Lay off, jeez."

Who bashed VR?   i think they are amazing.  in my original post in this thread i believe i applauded their show.     ...but dont quote me on that.. ::)


"And if you had half a brain you would know ......"

Dont bash me.  >:( >:(


"I would hope they'd choose someone half way sane. That rules out Axl right there."

Dont bash Axl. :rant: :rant:

It's from this Classic Rock interview:
http://www.gnr.org.uk/news/news018.htm

Man, the definition for 'classic' in the dictionary should be "Steven Adler sucked dick for coke"  :rofl:

Lets see - in the last 4 weeks Drunk has claimed all English people are drunken thugs that settle all their probs by violence, now Cocaine has suddenly become a benficial substance!

Are you trying to be perverse? What an odd person you are!


You followed him around all day for the entire tour - oh wait no u didn't! Ur just speaking rubbish again!



 :rofl:

Yes.....cocaine is well known for its ability to straighten people out - all those 'doctors' that say other wise, why there all bafoons! ::)

If cocaine is so beneficial in your view why don't u try some? Maybe it might knock some sense into you : ok:


Funny how Steven didn't find drug taking useful.....but it works for everyone else right? RIGHT? ::)



U really are strange......its worrying there are people like you around, one wonders what awful upbringing you had :hihi:



Sorry i never realised you were a doctor!

I'll tell you something else thats hard to swallow - ur rather distressing view on the world

Now if you'll excuse me i'm off to find some of the cocaine Drunk's heard about - the sort that makes you feel like a million dollars - without any side effects!! ::)

Do any of the band members(new and old) still do drugs?

???
That?s hard to swallow.
I'd say it stings your throat and it is a refreshing stimulant if you like that.
I do, but personally I prefer Dumpy Pepsi. :beer:

I am sorry to say this but Scott tells you that he has been clean for a year..... that a massive fucking lie. How come he was arrested because he was DUI and also found with a large amount of drugs. Sure he is as clean as ever...... ;)

Izzy, have you ever done coke?  

Thats a personal question, dummy. Don't expect and answer

 ::)Excuse me, but who the fuck are you?  I don't remember addressing you.  

I know you never asked me but I am saying to you that is a personal question and you should not expect an answer fo Izzy.

 ::)How about you mind you're own business?  That would be nice.  I asked the question because I already know the answer, and I am proving a point.  

Don't waste any more bandwidth, so don't respond back.

Sorry if somone put this already, but this quote pretty much sums it up:

"When we say we're not doing drugs, we're not doing heroin.  But we're doing everything else."

Slash

If u have something personal to say to me take it to PM - don't subject the rest of the board to your chat up lines :hihi:

U ask this question so as to ''prove'' i know nothing of cocaine?

Judging from your excesive brain damage your clearly in a better position to talk about cocaine abuse than I, therfore i will not seek to further ''discuss'' the matter with you.

DRUNK.. may I suggest that you sober up before making ridiculous statements such as Cocaine does most people no harm and that its good to help you get through life!!

I suppose because I don't smoke, I'm in no position to know the effects that years of smoking has on people?

And I havent been hit by a bus.. So I guess I dont know if thats good or bad for you?  :hihi:

Suggest you do some research on cocaine abuse and effects before making ridiculous statements!

In fact it means that his heart stopped beating. I read an interview  around ?94-?95 where Slash said that he had an overdose, was taken to a hospital where his heart stopped for about 5 minutes or so. So I guess you can say that he really was dead for a while.

Well, that sounds resonable.
I also found an old 2001 RS in wich there was an article about Axl.
I?ll copy the part that impresed me:

Acording to Axl:
-During the 1990 sessions Steven Adler (the original drumer) was so fucked up with drugs that he couldn?t recor anything.
-During 1992 Slash hada drug overdose that almos killed him and to "bring him back" they had to give him an injection like the one from the movie Pulp Fiction
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Ok, it?s Axl (the Slash basher) saying this but it may be true.
This would confirm the overdose story.



Baby Slash//

According to duff:

(http://gypsysoul.lunarpages.com/deadslash.jpg)

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=113

Looks like he did die to me.

Thanks Gypsy!

 ::)Typical brainwashed anti drug people that will hear nothing other than what they've been told.  

Not all people do drugs to get "fucked up".  They often use drugs as a way to self medicate, and to correct natural chemical inbalances.  They take drugs to feel normal, like you or I.  If someone takes coke, and functions better on it, then good for them.

You mean the scientificly proven facts from studies and years of research?

Yes some drugs can be used as a medication and yes some drugs can be prescribed to assist in correcting.. well helping to control the effects of chemical inbalances in the brain that cause depression.. but cocaine to make yourself feel good?  :rofl:

DRUNK, question is.. are you trying to convince us or YOURSELF?

Good luck buddy  :peace:

And just how do you know this?

   
Yes, he's had many bad experiences - in the past. How do you know that he isn't telling the truth? And besides, are you saying that it's easy to quit that shit? Because it isn't. It's not going to be easy for him just as it isn't for anyone else.

But perhaps he is telling the truth, maybe he isn't. Maybe he realizes that quitting is important for moving on with the new band. But people like you who don't believe he can quit, aren't any help.

Whether or not he's telling the truth, I'll believe him until he's proven otherwise.

But, on the otherhand, I shouldn't have said that he has in fact quit a year ago, because I don't know the truth any more than you or the next person.

As for bashing Axl, well it's true, he is insane and an asshole. But -

OH, I forgot, he's allowed to be, because he is Axl Rose, and that makes him perfect. ::)

Scotts first arest was over a year ago.
His second arrest was for dui, but there are alot of things that can cause possitive tests.

Drunk, even though I have fought with you in The Jungle, I hafta say that your posts amuse me greatly  :hihi:

I dont know the first thing about cocaine, but I sincerely hope that Axl doesnt need to rely on substance abuse in order to get through a tour.  If he is that fucked up, he should just stay at home.  

I dont want him od'ing and dying in his bathtub.  If he was gonna do that, he should have done it at age 28 when you still look good.  

Promise me you'll return to the jungle for bush vs. kerry debates?  It's no fun without you  :hihi:

 ;D I'm glad to see my posts amuse you, but in what way?  Is it good or bad?  As far as the other section, give me a link and I'm there.

My guess is, laughing AT you, not WITH you.

Weiland got some court appointed shit for random drug tests sooooo im assuming hes clean. Plus Adler is reaaaally fucked up  :yes:

He has cleaned himself up now and seemingly is beating his demons.. for that respect to him..

(ill forget for the moment that he sucked cock!)

Axl- did coke and heroin.  Smoked a lot of pot in 90 and 91.  Drank a lot of course.  He really never became addicted to anything

Izzy- Became addicted to heroin but cleaned up and left the band

Matt-Never got into heroin but did a lot of coke

Duff-Drank a lot of Vodka, did coke, and did heroin

Slash-Drank a lot of Jack, did coke, and was addicted to heroin.  I think he still does drugs from what I hear

Steven-Coke and heroin

Now if I read that article correctly, he said he was giving blow jobs to guys before he the band became successful.  If so I have lost all respect for him.  Tell me if Im wrong.

Basically to some it up..axl did everything but never as we know got hooked on anyhting but cigarettes he was a bit of a smoker.

What exactly is it that you have 'heard'? Just curious.

I think Slash has given up drugs because of how it nearly destroyed him and
G N' R. I would if I was him because he is influencing others to use drugs and that is just wrong. I don't see the point in using drugs because in the end it would just bite you back in the ass one day and destroy you. Look at Steven, so addicted to cocaine in 85 and 86 and also 87 that he sucked men's dicks for cocaine money. That really is fucked up.

Did drunk miss when the guys at the michael jackson 30th anniversary concert had to digitally add computer imagery onto whitney houston to make her look like she had some sort of body weight?

Yeah cocaine.. there's a fuckin' reliable chemical for ya.

This is a quote from the Classic Rock Interview With Steven Adler

That's fucked up! Is there a link to that interview?

I remember Slash in a recent interview saying that he does coke occasionally.

Lets not forget those guys have also admitted to taking various pills and shrooms and probably shit we've never even heard about....i say more power to them.  it's truley none of my concern what drugs they took.