Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I was thinking and I bet many of you have been thinking the same thing that I was thinking as well.

You Got No Right, Superhuman and Spectacle have all been only played one time.

They played Superhuman and Spectacle at the Roxy and You Got No Right got played in October.

Then I was looking at the Album tracklisting and they havn't played Loving the Alien (Sometimes) at all.

I wonder why they havn't played these 4 songs much? I mean is there a reason? I think there are too many damn covers in the setlist. I don't know... I like a band that changes up the setlist a little more then they do. It would be cool if they would alternate it a little.

The Velvet Revolver fanbase is also picking up. I think we're in for a real treat of "real" rock when this album hits us.

Thanks

TR

I know this is just a small pre-album tour, but I hope they start mixing the set up more and adding in/taking out different songs.

I remember Duff being interviewed by MTV back before UYI came out and they were playing different setlists every night and Duff said "to play the same setlist everynight is as boring as a 9 to 5 job", which is why they mixed it up.

Come on VR, mix it up some more, throw in some different GN'R/STP covers and different VR originals!

Yeah really I would love to hear them do Paradise City man... or Plush I mean that would fucking rock!!!!!!!!!!!!


Right on Mettalex

Dont count on it, Slash has recently deemed it "too anthemic" and unfit for playing without Axl (although one wonders why he played it several times with Cypress Hill?).  "Plush" is a possibility I suppose.

I agree, Id like to see them switch up the setlist as well as alternate between covers, making each show unique.  As for the absence of "Loving The Alien (Sometimes)" and "You Got No Right," its my guess that theyre keeping the show as rocking as possible, and slowing down the momentum as little as possible.  Only reason I can come up with concerning the other songs (including "Dirty Lil' Thing") is that theyre tying to keep some mystery and surprise for the album.  

Its possible that theyre viewing this tour as a "warm-up" and will play more originals and covers once they play longer sets at bigger venues.  

I personally want to see "You Could Be Mine". :yes:

Also, how cool would it be if they played one or two brand-new, non Contraband tracks in the near future?  B-sides, general unreleased songs, or possible selections for the next album...anything like that would be great.

Yeah, You Could Be Mine would be awesome. Apparently Matt teased the crowd with the drum intro at one of the shows recently too!
What other GN'R songs could they play that would be within Scott's range to sing I wonder?

Other covers they could play are either Attitude, New Rose or Raw Power with Duff and Scott sharing vocal duties :beer:

Range is irrelevant as far as Im concerned.  Scott will sing in his range regardless instead of imitating Axl...

Obviously the hits and "Axl" songs - "WTTJ," "SCOM," "November Rain," etc. - are out of the question.  But "YCBM," "Nightrain," and maybe even "Patience" would be great choices.


Tracks from The Spaghetti Incident? arent exactly near the top of my list, but to each his own... ;D

I want Rocket Queen, Paradise, Patience & Interstate  Love Song and Silvergun Superman!

I think they are probably waiting some tunes until the album comes out. Also some tunes just don't go over well live which really shouldn't be a problem for them I guess since they basically recorded the CD live. I think it will switch up somewhat once the album comes out and they will mess with some different covers. You have to remember that they only have one album so far without a heck of a lot of material.

Yeah, it just comes down to a matter of personal taste.
I don't like all of the songs on TSI, but you can't deny that those 3 songs rock just as much as any of the other punk covers the band are choosing to play (Bodies, Negative Creep).

I also think Out Ta Get Me would sound good with Scott on vocals. With all the lashing out the press Scott's been doing lately, I think he could add some real grit to it live. : ok:

I think they don't play all new tracks because fans don't know these songs... and listening almont all the show of unknown songs may be not what fans want...

VR should not be playing any gnr (or stp) songs at all.
They are neither of those bands anymore. Slash and duff keep saying they don't want to be associated or promote themselves for being in gnr but they sure like to mention axl in every interview and play old gnr songs at their shows. Why can't they just play their VR songs. That is their new band right?
You never heard audioslave playing rage or soundgarden songs, you never heard APC playing tool songs, and you never heard swan play SP songs.

It was a bit weird hearing Scott sing instead of Axl on the bootlegs.

When people say that VR has three ex-Gunners and they should play the songs because of that, you might wanna think about the fact that "only" two of them actually were in the band when the songs were written. ;)

Matt didn't play on AFD or Lies.

They're not covering Loaded or Snakepit and they have two ex-members of each band. ;)

 :hihi:

I guess they like playing the songs and people want to hear them at VR shows, so it's ok. I don't care. :D



/jarmo

Thing is the set list only looks boring because we are in the Internet age.  Where as a gig is soley (really) only meant to entertain those at the venue isn't it?

So you only have the right to complain if you have been to more that 2 gigs and it's been the same set list, otherwise it's just nit picking isn't it?

As far as the GNR/STP songs why shouldn't they play them?  Where's the rule book that says that?  As far as i'm concerned there are no rules when it comes to rock music.  I mean: If you see someone like Jimmy Page on TV, people really want to hear him belt out Zepplin aswell as checking out what new he has to offer and it's the same with Slash those GNR songs are as identifiable with him as they are Axl.   No one can argue that.

You could argue that Audioslave would have been more exciting if they did acknowlege their past.  
 

Anyway let the band grow, their finding their feet. But they earn extra respect points for doing it infront of us.  Wouldn't you rather they made mistakes and became a better band for it ? I will give them that patience anyway.

Personally i would like to hear (stp) Vasoline, No way out, No sex or violence, Dead and bloated  (gnr)  Pretty tied up, 14 years, Night train. My Michelle - actually i think they should be a bit cheeky and do maybe an acoustic version of say Sweet child ...could be cool.

Infact i'd also like to hear something like Soma city ward or Beggers and hanger (as duff wrote the ending too) on they are great tracks!  

Personaly I want to hear VR Hollywood Bitch,Wicked Garden,Sour girl and,All in the suit that you wear on the GNR side of things maybe Anything goes,Dust N' Bones,So fine,Rocket Queen and,Knockin' On Heavens Door

My feelings as well.

With the hit single, sold out tour and album on the way, it seems as though their identity as VR is becoming quite evident.  Any look back at the past is just additional fun for the fans and the band alike.

It isn't a hit single quite yet, it hasn't cracked the top 40. It is in the top 5 on 2 other sublevel charts.

Pure semantics, I would venture to say the record company, the band and the general music listening public consider "Slither" a hit.

They answered that in some interview. They said that the fans have been requesting it on the forums and emails and shit.   I know that I really want to see Slash play some of his solos and having Duff there is a plus. Shitloads of peopel do it and it' snot a big deal.
 
Paul McCartney  plays Beatles
George Harrison played Beatles
Jerry Cantrell plays AIC
Tommy Lee plays Crue
Vince plays Crue
Brides play Crue
Roger Waters plays Pink Floyd
Ozzy  played Sabbath
Plant played Zeppelin
Page played Zeppelin
Roth palys Van Halen
Hagar plays Van Halen
Dickie Betts plays Allman Bros.
Robby Krieger plays The Doors
Clapton plays Cream


That's just some. There are more and not everyone does it. But I know that I am really looking forward to witnessing Slash, Duff and Matt play some of those songs for the first time in front of me in 11 years. Actually I saw them play some at Camp Freddy too lol. But I was blacked Out.

Exactly, I would definaley want to hear GnR over Snakepit and Loaded lol. Although I do like the first Snakepit CD.

I think some people going to a VR concert are going because they want guns. You see people posting they should play more covers, they should play more then 3.  I think they picked a happy medium playing none might piss off fans and make people give bad reviews of the concerts. Playing 3 of the lesses known songs, embraces their past, makes the GnR fans happy, and breaks up a completelly NEW VR set.

BE honest who doesnt love a good old fashion sing along. Used to Love Her, Mr Brownstone.

Hell if America didnt love sing a longs would there be so many kareoke bars around?

I wish they would mix up the setlist as well. Especially since they have a whole aqlbum of songs to choose from. They should also drop IUTLH and replace it with Rocket Queen. I would love to see Scott perform that 1.

I also wish Scott would stop saying the same stuff on tour. Its like everything is planned and ok "x" song ends now I will say rock music, I really mean rock n roll music bala bla bla,,,,talk aout other stuff too...juts a lil compliant thats alll...

i can't believe this stupid argument is being discussed AGAIN!

the name of the band is irrelevant!! if VR starting calling themselves STP, it wouldn't change a thing. it would still be the same 5 people performing.

but based on your logic, if they DID change their name to STP, they would all of a sudden have some "right" to play STP songs.  ::)

so ridiculous!!!

I agree.  This way, they can play their new songs and throw in a cover every three songs or so to keep the fans into it, because they know their new songs aren't going to be over with the fans yet.  And I like the fact that they only play the lesser known GNR tracks rather than play the classics.

Every new band will play covers (even if they don't have ex-members in their group) for this very reason.  Axl's new band definitely comes to mind.   :P

i agree 100%. if they didn't play at least one gnr song, i would have been VERY disappointed.

Please point out the part where I discussed the band's name. Thank you.

VR has:

• Two ex-GN'R members who were in the band when the songs were written.
• Two Loaded members.
• Two Snakepit members.

They perform GN'R songs but no Loaded or Snakepit songs even thought they have an equal amount of members from those bands.  This concludes this episode of "Fun with maths". :P

If they covered a Loaded song like Seattle Head, it might actually work really well for this band...  8)


/jarmo

Ahem, pardon me for correcting you Jarmo, but "Seattle Head" was not an original Loaded song.  It was first recorded by Duff for his solo album Beautiful Disease.  So that song is really only by one member of VR.

Ah, more fun with math!   8)

I think it first appeared on a Neurotic Outsiders single (which featured both Duff and Matt).  ;D


/jarmo

They are playing to the fans. Its about 50% GNR fans, 25% STP fans and 25% Velvet Revolver fans. Alot of people going to these shows have a limited knowledge about VR and are there because of STP or GNR. So Velvet Revolver plays to what the fans want to hear. I'm tired of the Audioslave arguement, this band isn't Audioslave.

on a side note if they busted out "Good News" by NO I'd be one happy motherfucker

you didn't specifically mention band's names. BUT, based on (several) other convos on these boards, i know you think it's ok for axl to play gnr songs because he has the gnr name.

and the fact that you think it's "wierd" for this band to play gnr songs, is in my opinion, biased and hypocritical. and makes no sense whatsoever.

If you wanna bring Axl in this too, yes I think it's ok for him to play GN'R songs since his band uses the name GN'R and people going to the shows probably expect to hear GN'R songs.

You expect to hear Creed covers when you go see a band called GN'R?



Maybe I'm the only one who finds it a bit weird when I hear somebody else singing a song originally sung by Axl?

When I heard Sheryl Crow's version of SCOM, I wasn't expecting to hear Axl since it didn't sound that much like the original. Now when I heard VR's covers, it did sound like GN'R but the singer wasn't the old one.

Maybe you expect to hear Weiland singing when you put on AFD?  :hihi:



/jarmo

you're totally missing my point and spinning the discussion.

forget about what the band's names are.....do you expect axl to show up with a bunch of scrubs and play gnr songs???

i would not.

hearing two people named buckethead and fink F up slash's solos was really weird for me.

VR could call themselves STP......but that would be bullshit.

Let me say coming off Friday night's show in Philly, it was an absolute honor and pleasure to hear VR perform Its So Easy, Bownstone, and Used to Lover Her.  I also enjoyed hearing their new songs, and Sex Type Thing.  

No, I think you are. I explained what I meant with weird. You're the one assuming what I meant with it.

Here's another exmaple for you: Let's say you see the Don't Cry video on tv and when Axl starts singing, you realize it's the alternative lyrics version. That would be weird since you're expecting the original lyrics.


/jarmo