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Title: Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: pjv3244 on December 09, 2002, 10:10:12 PM
Just to change things up here a bit...

What UYI song do you think would most "fit" in if it had been released with AFD?  I say "Back off Bitch", followed by "You Could Be Mine".

On a sidenote, it's hilarious to me that Axl considered releasing "November Rain" on AFD.  Fantastic song, but would have seen horribly out of place on that album.

Opinions?



Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: TyRod Tulip on December 09, 2002, 10:12:56 PM
Ii agree about Back Off Bitch and TYCM.   [ok]

/Tulip


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: popcorn on December 09, 2002, 10:16:40 PM
  I think "u aren't the first" would've been a cool addition, of course Shannon Hoon wouldn't of been around to take the song to a higher level, but anyway. AFD is perfect & nothing needs to be added, but I would put a contrasting song like "u aren't the first on there if i had to. Maybe between Anything Goes & Rocket Queen.[peace]


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: MR.BROWNSTONE on December 09, 2002, 10:17:48 PM
I agree with Back Off Bitch. I read some where they where thinking about putting it on "Appetite For Destruction" I also think "Perfect Crime" would have been cool on it. I think "November Rain" and "You Could Be Mine" would not have  worked good on it. You Could Be Mine help them sell Use Your Illusions not like they need the help or anything.  [hihi] Thanks for making that thread. Thats the kind of threads I like.     [ok]

I was thinking about Right Next Door To Hell but it seems it fits good on Use Your Illusion I. It's like Welcome To The Jungle it just never got as big as it.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Dizzy on December 09, 2002, 10:19:18 PM
You Could Be Mine
Pretty Tied Up (without keyboards)
Perfect Crime
Right Next Door to Hell
Shotgun Blues
Garden of Eden


I agree about "November Rain".  It fit perfectly on Use Your Illusion I.  Glad it wasn't on Appetite for Destruction.  Use Your Illusion I wouldn't have sold as well without it.

"Back Off Bitch" was performed at their early shows back in 1986.  I have it on a live bootleg from 1-18-86.  Axl said in 1992 that it was a ten-year old song.  "Don't Cry" was also on that bootleg.  But I'm glad that one didn't appear on AFD either.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on June 22, 2004, 04:18:46 AM
Right next door to hell. It always had a pump up kind of vibe about it for me. Its hard rocking and fast. I could definently see that on AFD


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: bill213 on June 22, 2004, 04:26:19 AM
I SAIDDDDDDD YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU COULD BE MINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. or something.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: SlashFan on June 22, 2004, 04:34:47 AM
I think You Could Be Mine and Back Off Bitch would have worked on AFD,they were written the same time as the AFD songs,even on Illusions you can hear that Steven Adler style on those songs.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Izzy on June 22, 2004, 05:21:47 AM
Well the obvious is You could be mine - but i don't see any other UYI song fitting, they deserved to be on the albums they ended up on.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: ClintroN on June 22, 2004, 05:45:07 AM
Garden of Eden, YCBM, RNDTHell, Perfect Crime.

i like how Axl says he re-recorded AFD with the exception of YCBM and Patience. Their's not one melow song on it (except My Michelle intro), but Patience would be cool to through into the mix : ok:


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: matt88 on June 22, 2004, 07:58:19 AM
1) YCBM
2) Back Off Bitch
3) Right Next Door To Hell
4) Perfect Crime


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: DJM on June 22, 2004, 08:04:14 AM
1) YCBM
2) Perfect Crime
3) Back Off Bitch


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: metallex78 on June 22, 2004, 08:14:03 AM
I was thinking about this a few weeks ago when I was blasting the UYI's in my car. I had UYI2 on and for some reason, listening to Pretty Tied Up, I could somehow picture that on AFD.

It doesn't sound obviously like an AFD style rocker, but it just has a sleazy-rock/Izzy vibe about it that makes me think, yeah it could sit alongside any of the rockers on AFD.

I agree that YCBM and Back Off Bitch could've gone on there too.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: badapple81 on June 22, 2004, 08:18:19 AM
I dont know about Back Off Bitch.. I couldnt imagine those 'whoooaa.. whoa whoa whoa whoa..'s he does between versus on an AFD track.

Nor could I imagine the Perfect Crime '1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8' in a AFD track.

Right Next Door To Hell would be my pick.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: spiderman on June 22, 2004, 10:28:59 AM
 :nervous: my world?


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Neemo on June 22, 2004, 10:46:09 AM
I believe "Don't Cry" helped them get their record contract but it didn't suit the rest of the album so it was left off.  And you could be mine was supposed to be on it but it was not finished by the release date. Good thing to, because it helped generated interest as a 'new' G'n'R song for the "T2" movie.

For those who didn't know, if you look at the very last line of the credits in AFD it says "With your bitch slap rappin' and your cocain tongue, you get nothin' done"

But, as to the topic, why would you want to change a spotless record?!! :rant:


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: badintentions on June 22, 2004, 12:04:51 PM
i think that 'you could be mine' would be the only one that would fit perfectly on appetite. 'back off bitch' sounds, to me, more like their other early songs like reckless life, shadow of your love etc. it would have fit well on 'live like a suicide'. i think that the only other two that would fit fairly well would be right next door to hell and don't damn me. for some reason, while i like the song, perfect crime wouldn't sound right at all. there's one riff, the main verse riff, of double talkin jive that would fit but not the song as a whole.    


anyway.....great topic


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Dave_Rose on June 22, 2004, 12:12:03 PM
Dont Damn Me, YCBM, Back off bitch, Right Next Door To Hell


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: F*ck Fear on June 22, 2004, 12:14:44 PM
My World lol

I would have to go with You Could Be Mine


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: ktucker450 on June 22, 2004, 03:06:16 PM
it would have to be Back off Bitch.  Because on Appetite it was pretty much all just guitar rock as is most of this song.  On almost all the Illusion songs they got some other kind of shit going on that just doesnt fit Appetite.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: GnR_Kel_UK on June 22, 2004, 03:59:01 PM
1) Perfect Crime
2) You Could Be Mine
3) Right Next Door To Hell
4) Garden of Eden


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on June 22, 2004, 04:06:51 PM
Right next door to Hell / YCBM.  Both have good loud rock vibes to them. I know AFD is a great record its just a debate of what song is like that era. I think most agree that AFD doesnt need anything added to it.

 :smoking: Izzy


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Eazy E on June 22, 2004, 04:19:53 PM
I think replacing "Anything Goes" and "You're Crazy" with "You Could Be Mine" and "Back Off Bitch" would be the only possible way of improving Appetite.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Neemo on June 22, 2004, 04:22:50 PM
There is NO way to improve Appetite.  Leave it alone. It is among the best albums ever created.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Voodoochild on June 22, 2004, 05:16:31 PM
There is NO way to improve Appetite.  Leave it alone. It is among the best albums ever created.
Axl will not change the album, fear nothing.
Anyways, I guess YCBM and Don't Damn Me would fit right. But, if the album could be 2cds, I would put Locomotive, Coma, Back Off Bitch and Shotgun Blues too.  8)


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: SlashFan on June 23, 2004, 01:19:39 AM
Quote
Anyways, I guess YCBM and Don't Damn Me would fit right. But, if the album could be 2cds, I would put Locomotive, Coma, Back Off Bitch and Shotgun Blues too.  8)


Very good point : ok: :smoking:


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Gunner80 on June 23, 2004, 02:09:07 AM
I'd have to say Dead horse. To me it has that razor sharp edge that would of fit perfectly on AFD. : ok:


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: justynius on June 23, 2004, 02:12:03 AM
There is NO way to improve Appetite.  Leave it alone. It is among the best albums ever created.

I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. Everyone hated the Greatest Hits album in principle, but you do have to admit that the Appetite songs sounded a lot better. I have no problem with remastering which would have been done had the technology been available back when Appetite was first recorded.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on June 23, 2004, 02:34:48 AM
There is NO way to improve Appetite.  Leave it alone. It is among the best albums ever created.

I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. Everyone hated the Greatest Hits album in principle, but you do have to admit that the Appetite songs sounded a lot better. I have no problem with remastering which would have been done had the technology been available back when Appetite was first recorded.

They did sound crisp on GH


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: KOK on June 23, 2004, 12:30:28 PM
Double talking jive


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: C0ma on June 23, 2004, 12:40:53 PM
Right Next Door to Hell.

I think it was placed as the first song UYI1 as a bridge from Appetite to the Illusions. It just makes it feel like it could be track 13 off of Appetite.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: luciano on June 23, 2004, 01:07:16 PM

AIN?T GOING DOW, OF COURSE, EVEN THOUGH IT?S NOT ON UYI ALBUMS (it was re-recorded to be on them, but it was never released).

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and Prety Tied Up, of course

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forget about the studio overproduced and "clean" version of the song. Just listen to the two first live performances of it on Rock in Rio 2 (january 20 and 23, 1991) and you will see how GOOD and RAW that song can be. Very Appetite like. Oh, the live version of Bad Apples on RIR 2 is just as GREAT and just as Appetite like.

Hope one day the raw versions of UYI songs get to be released (or leaked) so we can get a taste of the real thing...


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: jabba2 on June 23, 2004, 05:30:27 PM
I agree the guitars in UYI sound so much better without all the production/whatever noise on top of it. Bad Apples could have been on AFD. The rest i dont know. Would have to listen to them without all the studio effects.


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: gnr1967 on June 23, 2004, 06:06:33 PM
I agree that Bad Apples could possibly be on AFD, but I might also include Locomotive and YCBM.  

Regarding other songs not on UYI, I would think that Reckless Life could fit in as well.  


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: Dizzy on June 23, 2004, 09:55:33 PM
All right, another 17 month old thread makes a return!   :hihi:   : ok:

I added "Pretty Tied Up" to the list that I posted way back on December 9, 2002, but I think that song would only fit AFD without the keyboards.  The piano sounded really incongruous even on the UYI release of "Pretty Tied Up".


i like how Axl says he re-recorded AFD with the exception of YCBM and Patience. Their's not one melow song on it , but Patience would be cool to through into the mix : ok:

He said he re-recorded AFD and replaced two songs with "You Could Be Mine" and "Patience".

Obviously, those two he omitted from AFD were "You're Crazy" and "Anything Goes".


Title: Re:Most "Appetite-like" UYI song?
Post by: badapple81 on June 23, 2004, 10:19:42 PM
All right, another 17 month old thread makes a return!   :hihi:   : ok:

I added "Pretty Tied Up" to the list that I posted way back on December 9, 2002, but I think that song would only fit AFD without the keyboards.  The piano sounded really incongruous even on the UYI release of "Pretty Tied Up".


i like how Axl says he re-recorded AFD with the exception of YCBM and Patience. Their's not one melow song on it , but Patience would be cool to through into the mix : ok:

He said he re-recorded AFD and replaced two songs with "You Could Be Mine" and "Patience".

Obviously, those two he omitted from AFD were "You're Crazy" and "Anything Goes".

Id love to hear the new band play You're Crazy live.. it used to ROCK on the old bootlegs from AFD era :)