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Charles Manson and W. Axl Rose??

Maybe a better word is similarities??

 :nervous:

Nobody says there is a connection...

If anyone was stupid enough to think that there
is its coz Axl made stupid people think there is....

The stupid T shirt and the "look at your game girl"

There is no other connection....

Nah no conncection just a dumb song

I dunno - maybe because there both crazy? :hihi:

There is no connection or interest to promote Charles Manson.  Axl's brother had a copy of a charles manson tape.  Axl listened to it , and liked the song.  So he recorded it at his home.  The rest of the band didn't even know he did the song. I read sometime ago.  

The song "Look At Your Game Girl" is quite fucked up I heard it was about a girl Charlie Manson killed that true some one put my mind at ease :nervous:

Manson carved WAR into one of the persons body and that is Axl's initals

I've seen pictures of very early Guns with Manson looking on from a picture on the wall.

Charles Manson never actually killed anyone himself, far too clever for that. In some diabolic way.

He was into some 60 and 70's movement for personal freedom and talked people into living in a community outside of Las Vegas for a while. His dream was to be a famous singer, but he never succeeded.

However, he did become friends with  one guy from the Beach Boys, simply because he was providing him with girls who came from his community. The beach boys guy presented him to quite a few people in the music business, but many said his style, although good was too common and they all rejected his music.

Manson, as time went by, was taking more and more drug,s having sex with almost all girls from his community and even underaged ones. One whom i cannot remember did have a child from him.

Anyway, as Manson was getting crazier on drugs, he started wanting revenge on the beach boy guy ( for his no career), who in the meantime, feeling unsafe, had sold his house.

Manson, very easily, proceeded to convince 4 people to break into the beach boy guy's house. He had apparently wanted to frighten him.

What happened afterwards is complicated.  Manson's crowd were full of desilusioned people, on drugs who drank every word that came out of his mouth.

They didn't know that Beach Boy guy had sold his house to the then young Roman Polanski. Roman had bought this house to try to pach up his marriage to the sublime Sharon Tate, actress.

One night, 4 people from the Manson crowd broke into the house, as the keeper was asleep int othe little garden house.

Sharon tate was 7 months pregnant and had two friends staying over. They first killed the two friends, in the most gruesome manner.

Then, they went onto torturing Sharon tate, to finally cut her tummy open, stab the baby once it was out and stab her to death.

AS they went later, they left satanic marks all over the house.

The crowd got arrested, but not because of that murder, but because they did exactly the same a few weeks later to a couple and the police eventually linked the two together, but much much later.

Charles Manson could have been accused of pedophilia, but not of murder, since he had no blood on his hands as such. But he was the instigator of horrible crimes that went totally out of control.

They are all in prison as we speak, although there are many petionners who want Manson free and who try to get him a parole.

The following is Sharon Tate, radiant and alive, most beautiful woman i ever saw personally ( apart from sharon stone)

and.....how she was found ( images free on google search for her name) DO NOT LOOK IF YOU ARE EASILY UPSET !!!! I'll just put the link, but i am honest, do really not look if you are sensitive.


(http://membres.lycos.fr/vampiras/sharon/tate9b.jpg)
(http://membres.lycos.fr/vampiras/sharon/tate3.jpg)
(http://membres.lycos.fr/vampiras/sharon/tate8.jpg)
(http://www.hamiltonsgallery.com/photographers/bailey/platinum/roman_tate.jpg)

Sharon Tate murders :

http://nicoclaux.free.fr/thecellscsManson.htm

There you have it folks. :peace:

Oh, hell, that was strongly  impressing

Told you so.

that has nothing to do with W. Axl Rose....  

That has to do with the question dave rose asked in this very thread.

Nothing more, nothing less.

I know.. I was also answering the original posters question.. and pointing out after looking at those pics that to compare that kind of sick shit to W Axl Rose is stupid... anyone who trys to draw a comparison from Axl Rose and Chales Manson obviously knows nothing about either man....



BTW...what happened to Charles Mansons child??

Yes, axl is a sweetheart so everyone says.

I don't know what happened to CM's child . I just hope that person doesn't know who the father is and if that person does, i hope it's not terribly hard to bear.

I might be to blame for spreading that and it might not have been true. Point is, the album and song was recorded before any of the victims of the Charles Manson family were murdered. But well, it's still possible that it was written about a girl later killled (and I've also seen speculations that they killed others before that). I do get the impression from the song that it's written about a girl he think he's helping by killing her, and  I am pretty sure that I read about it on a Charles Manson page sometime. It gotta come from someplace - but it might be inaccurate. A week ago or so I spent lots of time searching google to try to find anything about it, but I could not find it anymore.

This isn't that accurate. I don't think the Manson Family murders were an attempt to kill Dennis Wilson... If you check Manson's wikipedia page, there is a pretty accurate summation of events.

We currently have 2 Axl/Charles Manson threads running? :nervous:

I don't know why this one was bumped. All i did was post link to it the other thread because it related to the other topic.  :hihi:

No one answered the question

Why did Axl used to wear a charles manson T-shirt?
And why did Axl Cover his song when the other band members asked him not to?

In early 2000, Rose said that he would remove "Look at Your Game, Girl" from re-issues of the album, citing that critics and popular media misinterpreted his interest in Manson,

So what IS his interest in Manson?

yeah maybe!!!  :hihi:

I think it's pretty clear why Axl felt some sort of infinity with Charles however minimal.  Both came from fucked up childhoods and spent most of their life feeling alienated from most of the rest of society.  In Axl's case those feelings manifested themselves in some great music.  In Charles' case, well we all know what happened there, but point being both men have often been misunderstood by the public at large.  Keep in mind, Manson himself never did kill anybody, nor was he ever accused of it, yet he's one of the most famous "mass murderers" ever, and a pop cultural icon for better or worse.  I'm not saying Charles Manson was/is a good guy obviously, just that he's not quite the monster people have made him out to be.  As far as his music goes, I would recommend the infamous "Lie" album (recorded prior to the Tate/Labanca murders) which features his demo version of "Look At Your Game Girl", which is actually a pretty good tune.  Another musician who was influenced in some way by Manson is Evan Dando of The Lemonheads.  He covered "Your Home Is Where Your Happy" back in '88 and referenced him in many other early Lemonheads tunes.  Then there's Trent Reznor who recorded the "Downward Spiral" at the former Polanski/Tate residence prior to it's being torn down and of course Marilyn Manson himself.  Who by the way has always claimed it was he that turned Axl on to Charles' music.  Who knows if that's true or not, but the list goes on.....  :)

In Marilyn Mansons autobiography he tells a story about how he met axl..

it was backstage at a U2 concert, manson were there with trent reznor and they met axl so they started talking about music and marilyn told axl that he were to cover a charles manson song called "my monkey" on the album "Lie" axl said he had never heard the album so MM told him to check it out, a half year later axl had covered "look at your game girl" from the same album..


that's MM's story

Yup, that's what I was referring to.  I had come across that passage of the book somewhere online awhile back.  I also noticed he mentioned it again in that new interview posted on that other thread.  I figure even if it is true, which it may well be, it's kind of a moot point.  Artists as diverse as The Beach Boys (prior to the Tate/Labianca murders), Neil Young, Sonic Youth and The Lemonheads had all either covered Charlie's songs, referenced him in some way in song, or both prior to Axl, NIN, Marilyn Manson or anyone else who's done so in recent years so what does it matter?  I guess what he's trying to say of course is since he's the one who hipped Axl to Charlie's music that makes him "cooler" or whatever.  All's I know is I'll take Axl's take on "Look At Your Game Girl" over just about anything MM has ever done, but that's just me.  :)