Here Today... Gone To Hell!

My nominations:

1.) Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further.
Comment: God forbid you might give some details.

2. During his tenure with the band Buckethead has been inconsistent and erratic in both his behavior and commitment - despite being under contract - creating uncertainty and confusion and making it virtually impossible to move forward with recording, rehearsals and live plans with confidence.
Comment: Just substitute "Axl Rose" where you read "Buckethead".

What the fuck is this shit??


Ohhhh I get it.. your trying to make another "BASH AXL" thread huh??

If you dont like the press release dont fucking read it, what possible good could come from what you just posted??

Like your so fucking smart and know whats going on with the band and can try to find something wrong with the press release.... Brian Carroll is fucking gone.. get over it... who cares.. he didnt do shit except play slashs parts anyways.. anyone can do that...

(God forbid he give you any information) Is that sarcasim?? or your lame attempt at being funny?? coz if you think that making fun or tearing apart Axl Rose is cool to do on a Guns n Roses board your dumber than i think....

" Last time I talked to Bucket, he called to tell me he had bought
a bootleg DVD off EBay and how proud he was to be in Guns and how impressed
he was with everyone's performance"

Now thats a cool ass FUNNY MOTHERFUCKING quote!  : ok:

Calm Down kockstar, geez...lay off the double expresso... ;D
You gotta admit his description of Buckethead was the pot calling the kettle black...there's no bashing intended, ... It is ironic:hihi:

Lighten up dude!

I'm as big a fan as anyone. I flew to Vegas and Leeds from the East Coast to see the new band. I saw GNR in Boston in 2002. I saw Tommy Stinson at the Middle East in Boston last fall. Yes, I want Chinese Democracy to come out. Yes, I actually think the new band is great.

It doesn't mean that Axl or any of the members are beyond reproach.

You can't possibly think that press release is well written or thought out.  Like it or not, Axl is bordering on parody at this point.

Why is everyone so angry and defensive . . .

oh yeah that was a good one...
right up there with "Damn skippy!"  ;D

its cool when axl mentions gnr support group{us}

Do any of you think this press realese will be posted on GNRonline any time soon?

 :beer:


It was actually well written.  He got right to the point.  Then elaborated on it.  Then summed up the current situation rather nicely.  He even put a little teaser in there.  He's got my interest...
and oh the interest of THOUSANDS more....    Interestingly enough you gotta include yourself...  you who flew all around the world to see the new line-up... are you saying you wouldn't do it again?


When you were at those shows...  how would you have liked it that while you were rockin' out some asshole was yelling out "you guys suck! axl sucks!" every five minutes.  You would have wanted to knock the son of a bitch on his ass, no?  

Same thing.  It is annoying when you are trying to enjoy something and someone who has no appreciation for it wants to shit all over it.  

Anyone coming even close to crossing that line can expect to be called on it.

How is someone supposed to know if they like the press release or not without reading it first?

When you were at those shows...  how would you have liked it that while you were rockin' out some asshole was yelling out "you guys suck! axl sucks!" every five minutes.  You would have wanted to knock the son of a bitch on his ass, no?  

Same thing.  It is annoying when you are trying to enjoy something and someone who has no appreciation for it wants to shit all over it.  

Anyone coming even close to crossing that line can expect to be called on it.

Acctually there were plenty of people screaming exactly that at the Boston show, but I ignored them and went on with my life. Look.....this is a Guns N' Roses forum....not an Axl Forum.....why squash someones opinion just because you don't like what they are saying??

hey no one is squashing anything

and as far as this being a Guns N' Roses forum...  uh, Axl is the front man for Guns N' Roses so where is it wrong to talk about him here....  Yes, defend him even?  And we wouldn't have to be saying so much about him if there wasn't someone trying to tear him down every in every thread.  What you said doesn't REALLY make sense.

the same way that anyone can post that they think Axl is an asshole...
the same way myself or anyone else can post that they appreciate Axl's statements and that they are looking forward to the release of new music and llive shows

I recognzie that there are both types of persons on this forum

Even Axl said "Regardless of anyone's opinions of me and what I may or may not deserve..."
He knows there are negative opinions of him
but MORE importantly he knows there are many that support him.

So to get back on topic... I think that was a very interesting quote from the statement

Edited to add:  and oh about the annoying assholes at the concert.. I was using it as an example to help the poster understand... he DID ask "why the anger"...  
well thats the truth - like it or not - you ignore all you like - but if myself or someone else responds then thats OUR perogative...  Frankly, if i was at the show and some asshole was being annoying I would say something as well.    Not if they yelled the shit out once or here and there... but like i said every five minutes...  c'mon that wouldn't piss you off?  Well then you must have taken lessons from Ghandi himself!  hehehe
 :peace:

Eva -

This is my last comment on this topic. <<insert Jarmo comment here>>

There is a difference between yelling "Axl Sucks" and logically critiquing Axl in writing. Can you not learn something about Axl from what he writes?

For example: the ebay comment: isn't it strange to think a member of the band had to go to e-bay to get a recording of the concert? How out of touch can you be.

For example: the "buckethead is erratic" comment. If this was well thought out, he might have reflected on this and thought "hey, this is what the press thinks about me, maybe this sounds a little ironic". Just read the mtv.com response.

For example: Buckethead is undercontract. Yes, and GNR is undercontract to perform at Rio. Why is his failure to live up to his Rio obligations okay, but not for Buckethead?

I hear where monkey boy is coming from.

As a fan, how can you not laugh at what is going on. This is the response from Axl we were waiting for, but along with it, as fans we are going to comb through it.

Shit Monkeys points are valid. Everything people dissed Axl about, Axl has said about Buckethead. That's as funny as it is "business as usual".

The place GNR fans are in have been fucked up for a long time, and I think we all need to lighten up about it.

Oh, the quote about Buckethead buying a gnr bootleg DVD off Ebay would be my pick too.

You know, Axl has to see how ridiculous this all is. He is a smart guy. I think we can all agree that everything about GNR these days are ridiculous.

Wait I change my favorite quote. I like the one where Axl says he hopes to announce the release date in the next few months (he should have used the word "soon" for that would have been comedy gold). That is rich. If Axl is this bitter about Buckethead, then Bucketheads parts will be removed from the album.

And time keeps on ticking...

why don't you calm down.
i thought you were going to kill yourself over this buckethead shit.
and your ramblings about whether or not guns n' roses had a guitarist were just plain scary. :nervous:   chill out, man. it's not over 'till the fat lady sings.

Sarcasim, is a forum of humour. So when someone's uses sarcasim, they are useally trying to be funny.

Anyway, this press release was garbage, and just another delay, and another time frame given in which there will be no new cd. It truly is aweful. Axl's been sitting on the can for 6 years now, and still hasn't shit.....

I agree.
And my faves are
" to use his involvement in the upcoming Guns  release to immediately promote his individual efforts"
"We greatly appreciate Bucket's contributions and remain open to "discussions" as there are obviously several issues to resolve"
"Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly  (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to  take our recording that one extra step further"
Especially, this part (without giving away any details)

It?s too interesting how individuals see same thing, same phrase and same word totally different.

I agree 100% with your comment.  Axl Rose, of all people, calling anybody erratic and unreliable is laughable.

The sad thing is, everybody is in on the joke, except Axl.  He really doesn't see it.  Actually, the press release is well written, his intelligence is not the issue, it's his delusions.  Axl turns on everybody he works closely with eventually.  He's a textbook case of Borderline Personality Disorder, nothing is ever his fault, people are seen with an extreme view (good or bad), he's fiercely loyal until he feels threatened and then he's....well not anymore.  

He's not dishonest, he really just doesn't understand.  When Axl speaks it's always entertaining, and he's got denial down to an art form, I couldn't really pick one thing in the press release.  

This is not well-written.  Point.

Last time I talked to Bucket, he called to tell me he had bought a bootleg DVD off EBay and how proud he was to be in Guns and how impressed he was with everyone's performance. Then, in February we got word from Brain that Bucket had called him and said he was back in Guns!?

Then - is what we call a non sequitor. The "in February" sentence does not logically flow out of the sentence proceeding it. There needs to be some mention between the two sentences of Buckethead's departure.

My fear is that Axl is not getting the proper advice that he needs - let alone proofreading.

That is the point, monkey!!!
Axl didn't know Bucket had left!!!  Bucket said that he was excited, and then the next thing Axl knew Brain called and told Axl Bucket said he was back in.  AXL DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS GONE.  That's why it seems illogical.  According to this, Bucket's behavior was illogical!  There is NO INFORMATION to put between the sentences.
That's why he has a question mark there.
There are few areas where Axl may be guilty of a run-on, or maybe forgetting to properly break out a prepositional phrase with a comma, but by and large there is no problem with this press release.
Since you're in the correcting business, and I'm feeling cruel, it's "non sequitir", not "sequitor", and the word you want is "preceding", not "proceeding".
Drive thru.

Oh yeah.  My favorite part is "...Nice guy."
/McGann

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Axl calling someone elses behaviour erratic...lol

lol, you're holding Uncle Axl to some high standards there.  Everything may not be grammatically correct, but he does express his feelings well....the way he sees it.  


If he does receive advice, I doubt he takes it.  Even if he's completely wrong, I can sort of admire his singlemindedness.   Everything he does/says is truly his.

Yeah, I found that section of the press release rather amusing as well.  I actually laughed out loud.  Good stuff.  

Some english literature professors in this forum are not going to like this, however I feel the press release was to the point and honest. He wasn't writing for a Booker Award. Afterall everyone has a right to their opinion. That's fine. What's up with all the criticisism on the press release? I'm as disappointed, as the next person that he cancelled Rio . But let's cut him a break? :peace:
It's no wonder he hardly speaks out! Sheesh!

I thought the entire thing was genius. Since the shock has worn off, I've read it, and Axl is the man.

Axl sure has a way whit words I love all the rants and pressreleases we've seen over the years. The one were he called Sorum an albatross was hilarious My favourite part in the new one is "nice guy" And there was this other one when Slash was out sent "Live from burning hills" :hihi:

Axl sure is a funny bastard

What I was referring to was that a lot of us are here 'rockin' out' as it were... a lot of us are pleased with Axl's statements - yet it seems as though there are a bevy of fans that are just trying to tear his statements down... If that is not what you were doing - then excuse me - I misunderstood.  

True how he describes Buckethead is how the press (and many fans describe him).  However, to be truly ironic it would have to be the way that those whom Axl has been working with over the past 5 years described him.  Just my take on it.

And nothing in the statement indicates that he thinks its 'ok' to cancel Rio.  He's explaining and aplogizing about that very thing.

Hey its okay - everyone will see things differently.
No offense.
 :peace:

Good topic Monkey

I liked reading it - thanks for the laugh

what about the one that says

"take the recording one step further"

 :nervous:

The whole damn thing reminds me of the first time back in 1993 when I read an article that said: " 'The Spaghetti Incident?' is being released to tide Gun fans over until the release of the new album."  Here we are 11 years later and still hearing the same shit over and over again.  

Last I heard one of Axl's big arguments in court was the release of the new "Hits" record would hinder the release of "Chinese Democracy."  WHY!?  What possible effect would it have if the damn thing was ready to come out?  Total bull-shit.  Even though I agree with Axl, Slash, & Duff on their views on the "Hits" album coming out, I applaud Geffen for smacking Axl in the face.  They said it themselves:  "If Axl had given us the new record as promised we wouldn't have to release this compilation."

First Buckethead bailed, the label will probably be next.