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Title: portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: grabaraxl on March 30, 2004, 04:00:07 AM
just heard it this morning. and not's april fools yet.
the rir site still has them on, but being this the official radio, i guess they might know something.... ???

fuck.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: kockstar99 on March 30, 2004, 04:16:46 AM
maybe its all speculation by the DJ??

and how can they cancel when they have never confirmed??  

GnR havent said shit....


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Cristina on March 30, 2004, 04:27:07 AM
The "official" tv channel just confirmed that they cancelled.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: John Daniels on March 30, 2004, 04:35:52 AM
The "official" tv channel just confirmed that they cancelled.

how nice..what does the official RIR4 web site say about this?


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: grabaraxl on March 30, 2004, 04:53:04 AM
a friend of mine just called the radio station, and they said it's official - the rock in rio organization just released the news.

i'm sure that unfurtunatly the website will be updated today with that info.

they are already giving the indications for anyone that wants a refund for the may 30th ticket.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Mattgnr on March 30, 2004, 04:55:29 AM
Wank


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: scaramushka on March 30, 2004, 05:01:16 AM
well fag nabit,I just spent the guts of eight hundred euro booking the fucking thing,this is pure quality :rofl:


Im now broke and get to see Evanesence as a headliner  :peace:

 :rofl: this is so funny Im crying  :rofl:


actually




BOLLIX


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 05:01:17 AM
it is fucking official. it is now even on the internet site....


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Mutherfunker on March 30, 2004, 05:06:16 AM
You know........ one day we'll look back and laugh at this : ok:................*breaks down crying*

@#$%Muther


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Irishfecker on March 30, 2004, 05:10:44 AM
You know........ one day we'll look back and laugh at this : ok:................*breaks down crying*

@#$%Muther


exactle mother,this is shite,Ive already bought flights accomodation and tickets.
fair play to rir for offering refunds,but that was the cheapest fucking part!!!

This I think is the the day New Guns N Roses died

The Father


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 05:10:44 AM
i must confess i am angry at Buckethead. i really am. although i love him. fuck it.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: grabaraxl on March 30, 2004, 05:10:45 AM
a new headliner for that day will be announced soon.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: John Daniels on March 30, 2004, 05:11:14 AM
Chinese Democracy doesn't start in 2004  :hihi:  :rant:


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Cristina on March 30, 2004, 05:11:16 AM
They will offer refunds, apparently...

This is the link for the article in portuguese - I'm sure they will update the english site too, soon...

http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/nc02/457367.html?lang=pt


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Mysteron on March 30, 2004, 05:12:36 AM
Yikes

I think I'll still go anyway. Lisbon is a good city


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 05:13:53 AM
maybe it ir REAlly over now....I mean, how often can you REload something....


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Irishfecker on March 30, 2004, 05:15:44 AM
Yikes

I think I'll still go anyway. Lisbon is a good city

I dont like that quote Mysteron!!!!!
I thinks we is truely FUCKED :rofl:


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: grabaraxl on March 30, 2004, 05:18:30 AM
To Mysteron, and everyone:

my gn'r tribute band is still planning a gig near the rock in rio dates.

you are still very welcomed. we'll rock on some gn'r tunes and then we can all cry on each other's shoulders, because we won't see the real thing.

then we can get pretty drunk and riot at a KFC!

blame it on buckethead...
 :rant:


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: kockstar99 on March 30, 2004, 05:19:37 AM
well fuck... the only thing to look forward to is now gone...

FUCK OFF BUCKETHEAD!!!!!!!!! YOU FCUKER,

EAT SHIT AND DIE BRIAN CAROLL.............. YOU FUCKING RUINED IT... FOR WHAT??? MONSTERS AND ROBOTS AND FUCKING CLUB SHOWS???? GO FUCK YOURSELF....


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: John Daniels on March 30, 2004, 05:19:43 AM
Yikes

I think I'll still go anyway. Lisbon is a good city

that's the spirit tiger.. ;D

I'll be here in Finland 'cause Finland is a great country  :P


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 05:21:22 AM
i really don't understand why Buckethead left, but after this day I don't think that the new GNr as we knew them will ever come together.....what was the problem, Bucket??


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Irishfecker on March 30, 2004, 05:22:10 AM
To Mysteron, and everyone:

my gn'r tribute band is still planning a gig near the rock in rio dates.

you are still very welcomed. we'll rock on some gn'r tunes and then we can all cry on each other's shoulders, because we won't see the real thing.

then we can get pretty drunk and riot at a KFC!

blame it on buckethead...
 :rant:



Thanks for the offer bro,I should be hoping to see there


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: fora on March 30, 2004, 05:22:30 AM
We are near to the end, guys...
Another show canceled.
Another year of silence

I hope in a new guitarist SOON.

And i'm still hopin on a fall release of CD.

But i know i'm a dreamer


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Mutherfunker on March 30, 2004, 05:23:20 AM
I don't want to start blaming Buckethead, but it seems that his departure wasn't that long ago, and it hasn't been coped with.

I feel really sorry for you guys who have bought tickets and made arrangements.

@#$%Muther


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: jarmo on March 30, 2004, 05:23:34 AM
I can't say I'm that shocked about this.

It's still disappointing that they can't seem to play even one show that has been scheduled for months and I wonder why it took so long to announce the cancellation.

This won't help their reputation at all.....  Can it get any worse anyway?



/jarmo


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 05:24:17 AM
We are near to the end, guys...
Another show canceled.
Another year of silence

I hope in a new guitarist SOON.

And i'm still hopin on a fall release of CD.

But i know i'm a dreamer

forget the release in 2004.
BH is not coming back. aXL will take his parts away....a long way to nothing....


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: kockstar99 on March 30, 2004, 05:26:09 AM
Can it get any worse anyway?

I dont even want to think that.....

BRIAN CARROL .... EAT SHIT AND DIE... HAVE FUN ON YOUR FUCKING CLUB TOURS PLAYING YOUR SHIT.... GO TO HELL BRIAN CARROL


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Irishfecker on March 30, 2004, 05:27:44 AM
FINISHED is the word we be looking for

We will see Chin Dem,but it will be in about thirty or forty years after UNCLE AXL has passed away.

FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 05:28:37 AM
Brian Carrol has mutated to another Axl Rose. Great!!!!


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Nightfall on March 30, 2004, 05:29:39 AM
I don't want to start blaming Buckethead, but it seems that his departure wasn't that long ago, and it hasn't been coped with.
well...WE found out last february.....untill now seems to me enough time to find a temp player (2 months and 2 to go)...just for that 1 gig....


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Mysteron on March 30, 2004, 05:30:42 AM
Marek just emailed me, they're not doing RAR either now

I was just wondering actually, it's interesting that the Leeds festival was only announced yesterday. I wonder if they had planned on doing that as well


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Mutherfunker on March 30, 2004, 05:30:54 AM
Heres a babel Fish translation:

Guns n ' Roses Cancel participation
 
Rock in River-Lisbon announces in brief band who occupies place of the Guns in day 30 of May.
In virtue of the separation of the guitarist "Buckethead", Guns N ' Roses in River-Lisbon had cancelled its participation in the Rock.

The organization of the event goes to announce, in briefing, the new name that will go to actuar in day 30 of May, together with the Evanescence, Kings of Leon, Charlie Brown Jr. and Xutos and Pontap?s. However, who to prefer to change or to return the ticket of this day, will be able to direct it store of the Rock in River-Lisbon in the Olivais Shopping, in Lisbon, between days 12 and 30 of April.

In a letter sent for Axl Rose it is noticed sadness felt for the singer for having to cancel its participation in the biggest festival of music of the world, where the Guns actuavam for the third time.

"In my name and Guns N ' Roses it would like to ask for excuses to the fans who planned to see us in the Rock in Rio-Lisbon. The Festival and its history have great a meaning for me, sincerely, not taste of the sensation of being to be stolen me the chance of being the first artist to touch in three editions."
 
Wow, someone actually heard something from Axl.

@#$%Muther


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Irishfecker on March 30, 2004, 05:31:08 AM
Lay off BUCKETHEAD,I doubt its his fault.
Christ I wouldnt have stayed four years if nowt had been released,look at the frequency with which he releases albums.
I think there is only one person to blame.
 And even though I booked tickets its not a major surprise to anyone now is it?

Mysteron do you think you will still be able to get some sort of update re whats going on?


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: MeanBone on March 30, 2004, 05:32:48 AM
well i had a ticket and i was hoping on going, but i couldn't help thinking this could happen at any moment. but hey, shit happens. i bet Axl didn't want this to turn out this way, but some things.... were just never meant to be.
still i think there's a light at the end of the tunel. patience cuz better days will come. and don't start blaming Buckethead, no one can be forced to play in a band they feel estranged from. so it was his decision and his alone. no one can blame him or point a finger. he's a grown guy and this is about whats best for him. i hope he's happy now. as for Axl-... poor guy his world is collapsing and his reputation :| jeez. i wouldn't wan't to be him right now. but time always fix things. there's still hope if he wants to turn the tables  : ok:


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: fora on March 30, 2004, 05:33:09 AM
For GNR Management:

Now your plans have changed, eh... F@ck Y@u

And i hope someone will update the gnronline.com shit with  of Axl's letter. Or rock in rio web page is the new official site of Gnr?


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: kockstar99 on March 30, 2004, 05:34:38 AM
Marek just emailed me, they're not doing RAR either now

are they going to do anything??? or more just sitting around?? how about a new years show this year in Vegas,.. that could be big.... Fuck!!!


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Mysteron on March 30, 2004, 05:34:43 AM
Lay off BUCKETHEAD,I doubt its his fault.
Christ I wouldnt have stayed four years if nowt had been released,look at the frequency with which he releases albums.
I think there is only one person to blame.
 And even though I booked tickets its not a major surprise to anyone now is it?

Mysteron do you think you will still be able to get some sort of update re whats going on?

I will do

I'll leave it a few days though


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 05:34:55 AM
For GNR Management:

Now your plans have changed, eh... F@ck Y@u

And i hope someone will update the gnronline.com shit with  of Axl's letter. Or rock in rio web page is the new official site of Gnr?

this is fucking true


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: bolton on March 30, 2004, 05:35:15 AM
this is the end of "newgnr",band without album!
but we know that we won't see "chinese democracy" i n2004

FUCK


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: matt88 on March 30, 2004, 05:35:53 AM
BH singlehandedly fuked up GN'R 4 eva...i dont c GN'R playin shows and releasing material within the next couple of years


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Irishfecker on March 30, 2004, 05:36:25 AM
much appreciated Mysteron,hey Ill buy you one of those beers youre gonna have lisbon :beer:


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 05:38:37 AM
Guns N Roses
30.03.2004
R.I.P.
AGAIN


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: grabaraxl on March 30, 2004, 05:41:22 AM
weird as it may seem, and there can't be a bigger gn'r fan than me (maybe equal, but not bigger), i saw em 3 times live, but i didn't bought a ticket to the RIR because i had a feeling that we would get an info around this time.

2 months to go, it was obvious that if gn'r were to be in rio, they would do other festival dates in europe, so i guess the confirmation for those dates will be around this time.
well, my worst expectations came true today.
i had booked some holidays to june, so i could catch some shows of the euro tour.
now i'll burn that money on bitches and booze anywhere brasil.
fuck it!


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Cristina on March 30, 2004, 05:45:15 AM
I confess I had my doubts this would happen too...

I bought the tickets with insure on fnac... So that I can return them if for some reason I didn't go to the show.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: kockstar99 on March 30, 2004, 05:46:33 AM
now i'll burn that money on bitches and booze anywhere brasil.

sounds like a fucking good plan to me....

This is fucking horse shit... WTF is Brian Carrols fucking problem?? like he has SOOOO much else going on...

Good i hope Axl takes all of his fucking parts of the record... He may just have to play the shit himself....

why didnt he bring back fucking Paul ...

Oh well I hear VR might be minus a singer.....  


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 05:54:37 AM
now i'll burn that money on bitches and booze anywhere brasil.

sounds like a fucking good plan to me....

This is fucking horse shit... WTF is Brian Carrols fucking problem?? like he has SOOOO much else going on...

Good i hope Axl takes all of his fucking parts of the record... He may just have to play the shit himself....

why didnt he bring back fucking Paul ...

Oh well I hear VR might be minus a singer.....  

funny to hear Buckethead's real name.
nobody can play BH's parts. that is the FUCKING problem!!!
welcome year 2005!


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: norway on March 30, 2004, 05:59:10 AM
I don't blame buckethead since you can do that gig if you really want to. So there is for sure more than his departure behind this.

But fuck

The worst thing is if they have to replace his guitar parts for the entire album.

Can someone who knows shit check into if this is nessescary?

THEN we're really fucked...


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: kockstar99 on March 30, 2004, 05:59:11 AM
funny to hear Buckethead's real name.
nobody can play BH's parts. that is the FUCKING problem!!!
welcome year 2005!

I know... nobody could play the second Out ta get me solo like him... the Nightrain outro was his.....

I cant fucking understand whats the point of him doing this shit... Like he has sooooo much more going on anyways.. playing with the fucking Hobbit?? come on...he could have been front and center on CD...

oh i wont call him buckethead no more... from now on its Brain Carroll... just coz he doesnt want to be called that....


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: riotact_vancity on March 30, 2004, 06:00:34 AM
this is the end......beautiful friend.....of our elaborate plans the end......of everything that stands the end.....no safety or surprise the end.........it hurts to set you free....


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: norway on March 30, 2004, 06:02:22 AM
He was a highlight at he shows since axl's vocals varied a lot during the tour and he skipped opening screams and stuff


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 06:03:49 AM
funny to hear Buckethead's real name.
nobody can play BH's parts. that is the FUCKING problem!!!
welcome year 2005!

I know... nobody could play the second Out ta get me solo like him... the Nightrain outro was his.....

I cant fucking understand whats the point of him doing this shit... Like he has sooooo much more going on anyways.. playing with the fucking Hobbit?? come on...he could have been front and center on CD...

oh i wont call him buckethead no more... from now on its Brain Carroll... just coz he doesnt want to be called that....

true, dude, true.
i don't understand.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: John Daniels on March 30, 2004, 06:19:03 AM
If Buckethead doesn't want to be in GN'R anymore, so be it. What can we do, nothing. It's not really he's fault if he doesn't feel it right to be in GNR.

One thing he should have done better..he should have settled his leaving from GNR better. I kind of like feel that he left Axl alone to clear up the mess he left behind..finding a new guitarist, RIR4, postponing the record 'cause of replacing Buckethead's stuff etc...I think this little game of his wasn't very fair towards Axl.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Slipdisc on March 30, 2004, 06:23:19 AM
Buckethead in the band = Gunners blaming him for not being Slash and destroying the so called legacy (and therefore the band)

Buckethead out of the band = Gunners blame him for destroying the band (the same gunners who were always saying that GNR could easily miss a guitarplayer, because the old line up only had two)

Yep, hypocritical as hell.....

Axl could easily play the gig with just two guitarplayers or with a temporary replacement (Tobias). Buckethead only did (which is leaving) what many other musicians before him (after working with Axl) have done. Feb. 12th was the day Laswell told us that Buck would not show up at RIR, that s almost two months ago and there are still two months until the show. Don t blame Buckethead for the fact that Axl has been screwing up for years in a row and for not finding a replacement (where a line up with just two guitarists COULD work) in more then 4 months (which could be much more, but 4 for sure).

I m very sorry for all the people who where planning to go the Lisbon to see GNR and paid huge amounts of money, some of my best friends are in this situation now.


-PEACE-


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 06:23:58 AM
If Buckethead doesn't want to be in GN'R anymore, so be it. What can we do, nothing. It's not really he's fault if he doesn't feel it right to be in GNR.

One thing he should have done better..he should have settled his leaving from GNR better. I kind of like feel that he left Axl alone to clear up the mess he left behind..finding a new guitarist, RIR4, postponing the record 'cause of replacing Buckethead's stuff etc...I think this little game of his wasn't very fair towards Axl.

yes, that makes me sad


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: just_one on March 30, 2004, 06:26:22 AM
i just have 3 words and since its known that axl reads this forum


FUCK U AXL !!!!!!


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: kockstar99 on March 30, 2004, 06:27:16 AM
Slipdisc

What was the Official reason for the cancellation of the show from Axl Rose??


now tell me who to blame???

I know no more or less than you do..


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Caligula13 on March 30, 2004, 06:28:51 AM
Slipdisc

What was the Official reason for the cancellation of the show from Axl Rose??


now tell me who to blame???

I know no more or less than you do..

the official reason doesn't have to be the real reason. i don't blame Brian Caroll for RiR but for leaving the band...


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: kockstar99 on March 30, 2004, 06:32:05 AM

the official reason doesn't have to be the real reason. i don't blame Brian Caroll for RiR but for leaving the band...

sooo true.... sooo sad and sooo true... i dont know who to fucking belive anymore...


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Slipdisc on March 30, 2004, 06:32:55 AM
hey kockstar...

Tell me... who gave the official cancellation?? Yes Axl... The guy who has been twisting and turning for years now. Instead of making official cancellations he should invest some time in coming up with a solution.

I m not suprised that yet another dr Axl experiment goes apeshit and somebody else gets blamed. Things are going wrong for years and the only constant factor in every situation is Axl.

-PEACE-



Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Mutherfunker on March 30, 2004, 06:33:21 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if Finck had gone too. Who would know? We haven't heard anything from him for ages. That could be the reason. Losing two guitarists. Then again, I am just making it up. Is losing Buckethead that much of a problem to cancel a show this far in advance?

Axl shouldn't have let it get this far, but something must have happened to fuck things over because we know he like playing RIR, and that letter confirmed it.

@#$%Muther


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Slipdisc on March 30, 2004, 06:41:36 AM
Feb 12th people (more then 4 months before RIR!!), Laswell told me Buck wasn't going to play at RiR. Now maybe Buckethead hasn't dealt very professional with this situation (could be who knows?), but who the hell is leading this band? Axl or Buckethead?

-PEACE-


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: TealaRose on March 30, 2004, 06:42:40 AM
This just gets weirder and weirder.

For some reason I KNEW they were not going to be in Lisbon.

GNR is seemingly stalled

VR is pushing back their release date over and over...

Three of the 5 originals try to stop GH.

So lets just have Axl, Slash, Duff, Robin, Dizzy and Matt or Brain (don't care which) all release something together.

OK back to reality.

Bash me all you want, I will still support Axl until I hear from the mans own lips that he is done. I just have to believe that he knows what he is doing  ???

The whole court thing again maybe?

Axl .... talk to us. We really (well some of us) are trying to be very patient. It's just so dam hard being in the dark about everything all the time.

~darci


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: kockstar99 on March 30, 2004, 06:42:56 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if Finck had gone too. Who would know? We haven't heard anything from him for ages. That could be the reason. Losing two guitarists. Then again, I am just making it up. Is losing Buckethead that much of a problem to cancel a show this far in advance?

Axl shouldn't have let it get this far, but something must have happened to fuck things over because we know he like playing RIR, and that letter confirmed it.

@#$%Muther

maybe fucking Brain left with him..... or Robin...


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: The Bedouin on March 30, 2004, 06:45:52 AM
Guns N' Roses Not Able to Perform at Rock in Rio; A Message from W. Axl Rose

LISBON, Portugal--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 30, 2004--Guns N' Roses will not be performing as scheduled at Rock In Rio - Lisbon.


The band has been put in an untenable position by guitarist Buckethead and his untimely departure. During his tenure with the band Buckethead has been inconsistent and erratic in both his behavior and commitment - despite being under contract - creating uncertainty and confusion and making it virtually impossible to move forward with recording, rehearsals and live plans with confidence. His transient lifestyle has made it impossible for even his closest friends to have nearly any form of communication with him whatsoever. Last time I talked to Bucket, he called to tell me he had bought a bootleg DVD off EBay and how proud he was to be in Guns and how impressed he was with everyone's performance. Then, in February we got word from Brain that Bucket had called him and said he was back in Guns!? Apparently, according to Bucket he had been "Gone" but had turned himself around and was really excited to do Rio-Lisbon and a European tour. Somewhere in the following month things changed once again. According to those who have actually spoken with Buckethead it appears his plans were to secure a recording contract with Sanctuary Records which I encouraged my management to make available to him, quit GN'R and to use his involvement in the upcoming Guns release to immediately promote his individual efforts...Nice guy!

There is not a member of this camp that is not hurt, upset and ultimately disappointed by this event, and more to the point - if not this individual, certainly this individual's choices. Regardless of anyone's opinions of me and what I may or may not deserve, clearly the fans, individuals in this band, management, crew and our support group do not deserve this type of treatment. We as a whole, definitely feel that we afforded Bucket every accommodation perhaps so much so that it may be that we or more precisely, I may have done Guns a disservice and unintentionally allowed Guns to be put in this position.

On behalf of Guns N' Roses and myself I apologize to the fans who planned to see us at Rock In Rio - Lisbon. The festival and its tradition mean a lot to me personally and I sincerely do not enjoy being robbed by one of our own of the opportunity to be the first artist to play it for the third time. I would also like to express my gratitude to those who chose to embrace Buckethead's role in Guns and support our new line up. We greatly appreciate Bucket's contributions and remain open to "discussions" as there are obviously several issues to resolve. In the meantime rather than dwelling on the negative, Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further. Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months.

Sincerely,

W. Axl Rose

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040330005283&newsLang=en


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: BucketRose on March 30, 2004, 06:50:44 AM
Yup...thats classic Axl alright...squarely putting the blame everywhere except where it truly belongs.  How many times have we seen this now in the history of GnR?  And how many more times are the Here Today fans going to irrationally believe something...strictly because it came from the mouth of their eternal hero?


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Slipdisc on March 30, 2004, 06:52:19 AM
Hey Slash move over.... Buckethead has to fit into Axl's ass aswell... Typically Axl.

-PEACE-


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on March 30, 2004, 06:54:05 AM
i don't understand why they can't play without buckethead
i mean, he's just a guitar player
they already have 2.
 ???

and : people have bought plane tickets and all for that show .... i say, lets all go there, and riot  ;D


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Nightfall on March 30, 2004, 06:54:41 AM
Hey Slash move over.... Buckethead has to fit into Axl's ass aswell... Typically Axl.

-PEACE-
yeah...my first reaction too...problem is you can't be sure of anything...


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: DemocracyRose on March 30, 2004, 06:58:52 AM
I cant find any words for this.... :no:

I think, that i will take a break for these GNR- forums... I get dissapointted every time.... :-X

I really think, it is over for Guns N Roses..... :confused:

See ya..... ???


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Slipdisc on March 30, 2004, 07:04:37 AM
Typical Axl response:

Step 1:???Feel sorry for me, I m just a victim of the circumstances (for more then a decade  :drool: :rofl:)

Step 2:???Hey look!! There s the bad guy (points at random person)

Step 3:???Bash the bad guy!! (to distract from own actions)

Step 4:???Compliment the bad guy anyway (you never know when you might need him again)

Step 5: End with a funny/hopefull note (Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further).

-PEACE-


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: BucketRose on March 30, 2004, 07:05:09 AM
Whats funny is....some of the people who have been defending BH's place in GnR all this time have now turned on him in a heartbeat(just as I said they would...if BH ever quit or was fired.)  First it was Slash's fault...now its BH's fault...make way for the new ex-GnR whipping boy, Buckethead....despised by Axl loyalists throughout the land.

Its pretty ironic that all these board members who were always praising BH as the second-coming of Christ will be removing their BH avatars and telling BH to "fuck off."   ::)


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: jazjme on March 30, 2004, 07:05:42 AM
WELL DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE ASS!


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on March 30, 2004, 07:08:49 AM
it seems that buckethead is not really a cool guy...
and what is that band ?
" i called buckethead " ?
" i talked to brain " ?
waaa ?
aren't band members supposed to see each other everyday live like a family or what
i don't get it.

i'm not even sure axl has any members cellphone's number ...

and axl IS late again, even with the apology
i know people who bought their plane ticket and booked the hotel night.

and it's fuckin windy in the south of france now, sucks.  :rant:


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on March 30, 2004, 07:22:51 AM
We greatly appreciate Bucket's contributions and remain open to "discussions" as there are obviously several issues to resolve.

hrmm - sounds like he still is talking with buckethead


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: John Daniels on March 30, 2004, 07:23:52 AM
well I don't know about you guys but I stick with Axl with this one.

Buckethead left Axl to solve the mess he left behind. I think that tells a lot about the guy. And the way

he left Guns..he's own manager spends time with his gigs shouting around that Bucket won't be playing

at RIR and so on. I'm glad that the fucker is out so the whole band can move forward and stop trying

to negotiate more with him because it seems to me that Buckethead was in GNR just because of proping

up his marketing value..what an ass.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: kockstar99 on March 30, 2004, 07:30:28 AM
hrmm - sounds like he still is talking with buckethead

I hope not... I cant see him coming back and if he is the reason that the CD and tours are delayed then i wouldnt want him to waste anymore time on him...

find someone who wants to be the guitar player for guns n roses... Tommy doesnt seem to have ever had any problem.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on March 30, 2004, 07:31:13 AM
it seems to me that Buckethead was in GNR just because of proping
up his marketing value..what an ass.

too bad buckethead can't talk.
 ;D


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: metallex78 on March 30, 2004, 07:52:58 AM
Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further.

It's great to FINALLY hear some words from the man, but MORE recording????
Surely this will only delay the album another 5 years??????? :nervous:


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: madagas on March 30, 2004, 08:06:35 AM
If this isn't Spinal Tap, then I have no idea what is.....this is simply comical beyond belief and would make the best (and strangest) documentary in rock and roll history. The funniest line of all is Axl calling a man with a Chicken Bucket on his head erratic! Axl calling anyone erratic is funny but the whole Buckethead thing just takes it a step further. I can't stop laughing at the press release....more recording!!!!!!!! LMFAO FIFTY TIMES OVER. Axl may be the craziest fucker EVER in rock....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The album will just be a disappointment compared to all this shit! ;D


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Bahad on March 30, 2004, 08:14:47 AM
If this isn't Spinal Tap, then I have no idea what is.....this is simply comical beyond belief and would make the best (and strangest) documentary in rock and roll history. The funniest line of all is Axl calling a man with a Chicken Bucket on his head erratic! Axl calling anyone erratic is funny but the whole Buckethead thing just takes it a step further. I can't stop laughing at the press release....more recording!!!!!!!! LMFAO FIFTY TIMES OVER. Axl may be the craziest fucker EVER in rock....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The album will just be a disappointment compared to all this shit! ;D

Exactly, Spinal Tap. But It goes funnier and stranger than Spinal Tap.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Lineker10 on March 30, 2004, 08:20:20 AM
This is a definate case of FUBAR. I mean come on! How many cancelations/delays are we gonna have! The classic guys are out there - just get back with them, record, tour and kick ass!  :peace:


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: norway on March 30, 2004, 08:33:37 AM
Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further. Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months.

Sincerely,

W. Axl Rose

Question: This ain't bogus? Axl said that?


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: hackvresse on March 30, 2004, 08:37:51 AM
What does that little passage mean?


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on March 30, 2004, 09:31:32 AM
i'm sure everyone here still hope that all that letter thing is BS.
we love BS so much  ;D


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: K-Rock on March 30, 2004, 09:45:01 AM
Question: This ain't bogus?

I'd bet it is.  People couldn't just let Axl make a one-paragraph statement now could they??

Question: Axl said that?

I highly doubt it.  

Axl still hasn't given us insight on the tour cancellation.....do you really think he's going to share that long-winded statement with the fans??  


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: pilferk on March 30, 2004, 09:49:05 AM
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040330005283&newsLang=en

Again, the letter is not fake.  It was released as a Press Release on the news wire by Sanctuary.  Now, did Axl really write it or was it "ghost written" for him?  Who knows...I rather doubt Axl would allow someone from Sanctuary to sign his name to something he didnt' write, though.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: erose on March 30, 2004, 10:30:10 AM
bucket could have done rir before he left.... i'm not saying that this is axl's or bucket's fault, but goddamn what a way to do it.... :no:

the mysique of gn'r goes on and on and on  :hihi: ....



will there still be a gunners meeting? ???


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Kiki on March 30, 2004, 10:33:37 AM



will there still be a gunners meeting? ???

Sure, we'll be there.
We've booked the flight, hotel and have the RIR-tickets, so we might as well go and try to have a good time.

Sure we're very dissapointed, but maybe there's another good band instead of GN'R....


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: oneway23 on March 30, 2004, 10:35:02 AM
WHA-WHAT??!!  I leave for 12 hours...and return to this!!  What's with the paragraph about further recording??  Where are all those who claimed the CD masters were handed over?

* Imagines Miles Davis playing taps

This is utter bullshit...so disheartening



Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Jessica on March 30, 2004, 11:14:23 AM
As the band leader, axl would be the one making a statement.

It does not mean he decided to cancell the tour. Maybe his management did, to piss him off. We don't know what happens behind the scenes.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Izzy on March 30, 2004, 11:19:05 AM
We knew RIR4 would never feature GNR months ago, so why all this dissapointment?



Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Jessica on March 30, 2004, 11:24:44 AM
I guess they tour so little that people wanted a glimpse ?  :-\


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: tjompus on March 30, 2004, 11:36:48 AM
Well, I never really liked the "new" gnr but I gave them a chance and now I've had it. I wont even by chinese democrazy if it, against all odds, is ever released.

/tomas


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: liquidvirus on March 30, 2004, 12:00:05 PM
As the band leader, axl would be the one making a statement.

It does not mean he decided to cancell the tour. Maybe his management did, to piss him off. We don't know what happens behind the scenes.

why would they do that??? wont it make em lose money?


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: simwimjim on March 30, 2004, 12:04:17 PM
OK thats it I am calling it a day with GN'R. I can't keep up with all this negative stuff. GN'R could have been the next Stones, but are just one big mess.

"Time went by and it became a joke".

Axl is a fucking crybaby cunt.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Jessica on March 30, 2004, 12:16:40 PM
As the band leader, axl would be the one making a statement.

It does not mean he decided to cancell the tour. Maybe his management did, to piss him off. We don't know what happens behind the scenes.

why would they do that??? wont it make em lose money?

Hmmm...Legal business....I don't know the ins and outs of GNR, but i know that sometimes, you loose less money pushing people to an adge than having to pay people because you don't respect your part of a contract ? If they breech it themselves, you can then ask for money from them ( them being the band ? )

Just a thought...Haven't go a clue and i'm tired.. :peace:


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Continental Drift on March 30, 2004, 01:21:07 PM
Well... I give Axl credit for finally figuring out how to cancel a show in a correct and safe fashion.

Could it be that our little Indiana red head is growing up!?! :rofl:

As I've said in other threads... I pray to God Brian May is on his way to LA as we speak. He may be the only guy left in the world that can stabilize this ship. He knows what it's like dealing with self-proclaimed musical geniuses.


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: BeefyD on March 30, 2004, 01:29:38 PM
See, the real reason why Buckethead left is that the bootleg dvd he bought off of eBay was the Ritz 1988.  He realized how cool GnR used to be, and said "F-This! I can't compete with this!" :rofl:


Title: mtvnews report...Axl blames Buckethead
Post by: grog mug on March 30, 2004, 03:03:27 PM
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1486053/20040330/guns_n_roses.jhtml?headlines=true

Check this out....looks like mtvnews is all ready all over this subject.  More negativity from the world of Guns N' Roses, does it ever END??!!


Title: Buckethead Leaving is NO excuse
Post by: PhillyRiot on March 30, 2004, 05:02:51 PM
So Buckethead is out of the band.  Why does this mean Rock in Rio had to be cancelled?  Robin Finck is a lead guitarist, can't he handle the load by himself.  Slash sure as hell could perform Appetitte songs by himself.  Once again, Axl is blaming other people.  He should have taken the stage regardless.  I just don't get it.   Seems like there is enough time to prepare.


Title: Re:mtvnews report...Axl blames Buckethead
Post by: Dizzy on March 30, 2004, 05:49:48 PM
Here is the whole article...as usual Axl blames anyone but himself.  Axl's comments about how Buckethead was "erratic and unreliable" are laughable coming from him.

______

Much to the surprise of, well, no one, Guns N' Roses have nixed their May 30 appearance at Rock in Rio - Lisbon.

In an official statement, singer Axl Rose blamed the cancellation on former guitarist Buckethead, who quit the band earlier this year (see "Buckethead's Hand Puppet Says Goodbye To Guns N' Roses").

"The band has been put in an untenable position by guitarist Buckethead and his untimely departure," Rose said. "I apologize to the fans who planned to see us at Rock in Rio - Lisbon. The festival and its tradition mean a lot to me personally and I sincerely do not enjoy being robbed by one of our own of the opportunity to be the first artist to play it for the third time."

Rose, who failed to show up at two of the band's gigs last year, forcing the cancellation of the remainder of the tour (see "It's Extra Official: Promoter Says GN'R Tour Totally Off"), called Buckethead unreliable, and claimed he was largely responsible for the band's inability to proceed with its decade-in-the-making album, Chinese Democracy.

"During his tenure with the band, Buckethead has been inconsistent and erratic in both his behavior and commitment ? despite being under contract ? creating uncertainty and confusion and making it virtually impossible to move forward with recording, rehearsals and live plans with confidence," Rose said. "His transient lifestyle has made it impossible for even his closest friends to have nearly any form of communication with him whatsoever."

Buckethead quit Guns N' Roses several times during his four years with the group, but he repeatedly returned. It got to the point, claims Rose, where the band wasn't even entirely sure when the puppet-toting guitarist was in and when he was out.

"In February, we got word from [drummer] Brain that Bucket had called him and said he was back in Guns," Rose said. "According to Bucket, he had been gone, but had turned himself around and was really excited to do Rio - Lisbon and a European tour. Somewhere in the following month, things changed once again."

Not only was Buckethead flaky, Rose claims, he was also underhanded ? at least, that's what other people told him. "According to those who have actually spoken with Buckethead, it appears his plans were to secure a recording contract with Sanctuary Records, which I encouraged my management to make available to him," Rose began. "[Then he was going to] quit GN'R and use his involvement in the upcoming Guns release to immediately promote his individual efforts."

Despite the harsh tone of his statement, Rose seems to have left the door open for Buckethead to again return to the GN'R fold. "We greatly appreciate Bucket's contributions and remain open to discussions, as there are obviously several issues to resolve."

Even if Buckethead's gone for good, Rose insists the guitarist's decision to bolt has sparked a creative burst from the band, and added that a release date for Chinese Democracy will be announced "within the next few months."

"Rather than dwelling on the negative, Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details), this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further," Rose said.

Neither Buckethead nor his hand puppet were available for comment at press time.


Title: Re:mtvnews report...Axl blames Buckethead
Post by: SwedeChildO'Mine on March 30, 2004, 06:30:09 PM
Rose insists the guitarist's decision to bolt has sparked a creative burst from the band, and added that a release date for Chinese Democracy will be announced "within the next few months."


Great news. But I'm not sure that the release date will be given within the next few months.  :-\


Title: Re:portuguese official RIR radio news: Gn'R cancelled RIR4
Post by: Dot on March 30, 2004, 08:54:30 PM
Oh..I was so not expecting their cancelling of the gig..... :P