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Title: What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: BucketRose on March 18, 2004, 06:10:37 PM


What do you think of the lineup without Buckethead?  

I think its pretty lackluster...none of the members really stand out or are anything special.  The band is bland.  

I think the nu-GnR just lost its second most important link.  I never cared much for Bucket's dress and stage antics...but at least his "tophat" and persona were somewhat similar to Slash...and he was an interesting player...definitely more interesting than Fincky boy.  

IF GnR even exists anymore, I think the remaining members leave a lineup that leaves ALOT to be desired.  What do you think?


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on March 18, 2004, 06:13:04 PM
The band is still very good, they are just not great.
Robin will do fine doing all the leads


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Captain P?l on March 18, 2004, 06:14:55 PM
the band rules! robin rules! and richard might aswell rule!

saying GNR is dead 'cuz BH is out s like saying GNR is dead 'cuz slash is out....


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: horsey on March 18, 2004, 06:15:07 PM
i was away in wildwood nj and atlantic city.for the
holiday.i spent st patty's day in hooters ain't so bad eh lol.but come back to this news.i freaked out went bizrerk right.than thought.axl has to have a plan.
yes a master plan.i only hope.but the giutar lessons hhhmmm ?that axl was taking'


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: duga on March 18, 2004, 06:17:31 PM
Release the album as a W. Axl Rose solo album with all the (ex-)members as "session musicians". Forget about touring.


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: slashedguns on March 18, 2004, 06:33:32 PM
The name GUNS N ROSES becomes more of a joke everyday unfortunately.


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: duga on March 18, 2004, 06:50:27 PM
The name GUNS N ROSES becomes more of a joke everyday unfortunately.

Yes, and that is why Axl shouldn't use it's name.


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: GunsLova on March 18, 2004, 07:17:17 PM
The name GUNS N ROSES becomes more of a joke everyday unfortunately.

Yes, and that is why Axl shouldn't use it's name.

I completely agree!!


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: kockstar99 on March 18, 2004, 07:22:47 PM
I think they will survive... Robin was Slashes original replacement....  2 Lead Guitar players was never the original plan anyways...

Im still not convinced B Head is gone...


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Pviljoen on March 18, 2004, 07:34:08 PM
OKAY OKAY OKAY, I'll admit that before I was a huge Finck hater. Now I'll give him this: I realize that he is a very very very emotional player, and puts a lot of feeling into how he deals with the guitar. The problem is, I don't like how that sounds, he does little things that sound off and don't give with the old GNR songs. HOWEVER on the new songs I like his fresh approach, I'm just hoping for rio that they can get a more bluesy type lead player to play the old stuff with the same "fuck you" swagger that slash did.

But, I will grant Finck that his style fits the new type of stuff Axl is gonna be putting out, i just don't like his work on the old songs, which are a different style all together.


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: TyRod Tulip on March 18, 2004, 07:45:31 PM
What do I think of GNR now that Buckethead's out?

Good question.

I don't think GNR even exists without Buckethead.  So they have quickly become (as if they weren't already) a huge non-factor.

/Tulip


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Izzy on March 18, 2004, 07:49:44 PM
I look at the current line up and the hope i once had just slips away

Buckethead was the most talented member - people like Finck and Fortus didn't seem to matter when Bhead was there, they would be playing second fiddle to him

He had a great gimmick going, he got peoples attention - and had the ability to hold that attention, sure he's no Slash but he's a fuckin awesome guitarist

They seem very average without him.


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on March 18, 2004, 07:55:49 PM
Since we have not heard CD yet we don`t know exactly how much buckethead contributed. No doubt they`d be better off with him, he`s a phenominal guitarist. Fortus can play awesome leads and honestly I think GNR doesn`t necssarily need to replace him. This will give Finck and Fortus more room to contribute.

Yes I am looking at the bright side. I am just hoping Brain doesn`t jump ship also.

Axl get your shit together and release the album before its too late.


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Captain P?l on March 18, 2004, 07:57:29 PM
I look at the current line up and the hope i once had just slips away

Buckethead was the most talented member - people like Finck and Fortus didn't seem to matter when Bhead was there, they would be playing second fiddle to him

He had a great gimmick going, he got peoples attention - and had the ability to hold that attention, sure he's no Slash but he's a fuckin awesome guitarist

They seem very average without him.

come on... finck was playing more lead parts than buckethead.... there have to be a reason for that too...


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Izzy on March 18, 2004, 08:02:32 PM
I look at the current line up and the hope i once had just slips away

Buckethead was the most talented member - people like Finck and Fortus didn't seem to matter when Bhead was there, they would be playing second fiddle to him

He had a great gimmick going, he got peoples attention - and had the ability to hold that attention, sure he's no Slash but he's a fuckin awesome guitarist

They seem very average without him.

come on... finck was playing more lead parts than buckethead.... there have to be a reason for that too...

Well as he played those lead parts badly i think we can chalk that one off to a mistake....

If ur trying to imply Finck is as good as Bhead, or perhaps even better...then....er......well


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Jizzo on March 18, 2004, 08:08:44 PM
The band is better today than it was yesterday.


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: grog mug on March 18, 2004, 08:42:10 PM
He needs to keep this same band together.  I mean what is Axl thinking.  Release the album, tour, and keep your fans updated.  Quit making people leave and keep your new lineup together, your making a fucking ass of yourself.


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Captain P?l on March 18, 2004, 08:48:44 PM
I look at the current line up and the hope i once had just slips away

Buckethead was the most talented member - people like Finck and Fortus didn't seem to matter when Bhead was there, they would be playing second fiddle to him

He had a great gimmick going, he got peoples attention - and had the ability to hold that attention, sure he's no Slash but he's a fuckin awesome guitarist

They seem very average without him.

come on... finck was playing more lead parts than buckethead.... there have to be a reason for that too...

Well as he played those lead parts badly i think we can chalk that one off to a mistake....

If ur trying to imply Finck is as good as Bhead, or perhaps even better...then....er......well

no, i didnt imply that... but what i did mean is that there must be one reason why he plays the bigest parts of the solo's. maybe BH never was as much involved with GNR at all.....

maybe buckethead just used axl and the GNR name and legacy to promote himself?


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on March 18, 2004, 08:55:39 PM
It totally SUCKS that Buckethead has apparently left.

But as has been pointed out that still leaves 2 guitarists each with 20+ years experience.  First of all I absolutely love Finck.  He stole my heart a few times over already.  I love his vibe.  Live he is absolutely beautiful.  Intense even when he is calm.  He is the perfect fit in this GN'R lineup.  And Fortus fucking rocks.  I am actually looking forward to hearing him play more parts now (if BH is indeed out).  That being said along with Finck, Tommy is my favorite of the new Guns N' Roses.  I love his energy and his attitude.  
Tommy is a pure rocker.  

So what do I think of GN'R without Buckethead?  I still love them and hope that I will have the opportunity to see them soon.

And if I can't be there when it happens I will be jumping up and down wherever I am squealing like a school girl:  Tommy!!!!  Robin!!!!


PS:  I think Brain is gone..  This is what really has me scratchin' my noggin.  We need a drummer!   :crying:   Ah but that is a different topic/thread.



Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: AxlsMainMan on March 18, 2004, 09:32:48 PM
Personally, i think with Buckethead leaving it really looks like a real band now :)I mean Buckethead was easily the most skilled guitar player when improvising solos and shredding old song solos but other then that on stage he doesnt contribute much, and in my opinion Robin was more of a valued and useful member then Buckethead. Saying without Buckethead, this band will be hard to grab attention is true, i mean if i wore a kabuki mask and a KFC bucket on my head around town people would think im a fucking retart. Who really cares if Robin is a goth, i mean if Axl performed in a loincloth, everyone here would still worship him so cut the guy some slack. New GnR lives on....sort of : ok:


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: matt88 on March 18, 2004, 10:32:56 PM
I think that GN'R is at a turning point now buckethead's left. And i just don't know whats gonna happen in the future, so i think gnr is in the crapper at the moment


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: madagas on March 19, 2004, 11:25:47 AM
VERY MEDIOCRE.....as compared to the old band, but still better than the majority of shit on the radio today. Axl still has a gift for melody and Bucket or no Bucket won't change that. ;D


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Rocket_queen125 on March 19, 2004, 04:29:03 PM
robin and richard where my favorite anyways i love robin on the blues i could care less for sum guy in a kfc bucket who doesnt move or even acknowledge the audience


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: killingvector on March 19, 2004, 05:16:18 PM
you obviously never saw Rio III vid. Bucket was all over the stage.


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on March 19, 2004, 07:00:10 PM
GNR will be fine with just 2 guitarists. Buckethead was awesome, but we don`t know how much of an impacht he actually made with Chinese Democracy since no one has heard it yet.

I just hope Brain does not leave also. That could be a problem. Maybe Axl will be taking drum lessons also?


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: Billo on March 20, 2004, 05:32:49 AM
Well..if hes gone :o IF..we dont really know why or what the reasons were....who says hes left on bad terms or wont be back??,robin came back.. :peace:
Why would he go if everythings so close to happening RIO etc....why would he choose to go...Axl never stopped him touring solo befor so why?? Dosent make any sence to me because WE DONT know whats going on.. :peace:
Ill be sorry if he is gone because hes one talented player,But knowbody thought anyone could replace SLASH but most people come to love Bucket after a while......well get to know any knew player that Axl brings in..hes not gonna bring someone in whos not a good player is he.. : ok:
Also on the knew songs ive heard......CD and Blues its mostly Robin playing the solos not bucket..


Title: It's Over (Just my opinon)
Post by: simwimjim on March 20, 2004, 06:06:06 AM
OK this is just my opinion so it don't mean shit, becuase opinions are like ass hole right, everyones got one.

I have been a long time learker of this website and forum and have even from time to time send Jarmo info and news and hoping that the new album would get released but I decided to post here after all these years because I really and truly believe that it is over.

I don?t think that Buckethead?s loss is great in terms of music, you can just get another hired gun. But to me his loss shows the state and situation of the band, in that the band members and even the record label as well as the fans are getting frustrated at Axl. And are slowly losing patience with him and many are jumping ship. I jumped when Duff walked, the Label is well and true pissed; the release of the Greatest hits album proves this. And over the last few days I have read posts by so many people that are New and Old GN?R that are sick of the bad treatment we get as fans. If Chinese Democracy ever hits the stores and it is even better than AFD I don?t think it will sell because the press and media are going to hate it and ridicule it because it has taken so long and it is Axl.

The only way GN?R can redeem itself is a reunion. Perhaps in 2007 we will see the AFD line up return for a 20-year anniversary tour for AFD. I have already bought my ticket.... :P


Title: Re:What do you think of GnR? (Without Buckethead)
Post by: liquidvirus on March 20, 2004, 07:43:49 AM
the band rules! robin rules! and richard might aswell rule!

saying GNR is dead 'cuz BH is out s like saying GNR is dead 'cuz slash is out....
er actually GNR has been dead ever since slash left
hardly any new material and even the stuff we heard....not very guitar based
bhead seemed to bring some hope...if u listen yo his solo stuff....but upon his departure...well im scared :nervous: