Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Anybody know anything about this?

How close were they in the early 90s, and how close are they now?  Is he cool with the ex-members, or does his allegience to Axl keep him from associating with them?  If anybody knows, please enlighten us.

Dizzy is a cool guy, but He may do what Axl tells him. he has just chosen his side.

I think that Dizzy doesnt hate them or anything. He mentioned in an interview a few years ago how he hopes vr does well. He said they are good and hope they have fun.

I think if he ran into the old members hew ould talk with them. but who knows. One day gnr and vr will cross paths.

Wasn't there a recent picture of him with Gilby and Teddy?

i'm sure they'd get along, dizzy was even in the first snakepit record, i guess they'd talk. and if Axl wouldn't flip out, the old guys could even talk to him if one day they'd cross paths, just like when Axl sang with gilby a few years ago.

the real problem is between Axl and Slash. They are the 2 who hate each other now. I don't even think that Duff "hates" Axl and I don't think Axl "hates" Duff. the same for izzy, matt, gilby etc...
all that story is a Slash/Axl or Axl/Slash problem. They just need to talk.

VR as a band has only existed for less than a year  ???


By ex-gunners, I mean Matt, Duff, Izzy and Slash.

ofcourse you did, cuz gilby was less then a member then Matt was....

 :rofl:

Jarmo's gonna kill ya.  You managed to turn a Dizzy thread into a Axl/Slash reunion thread again.

Hasnt Dizzy contributed to some of Slash and Duff's solo records?  I've never heard/read him bashing the guys.

The ONLY person with a problem towards the old Gunners is Axl.  Even Steven Adler has had a reunion of sorts with Slash & Izzy.

Ok then it was less than  a year ago, or he said it when they were still looking for a lead singer. It doesnt make a difference bro

I didn't even think of that when I wrote it . really, I didn't. I just spoke about relashionships in the old band with dizzy (wich is the topic subject)
let's talk about dizzy.  :smoking:

That's what I think too...

Let's talk about Dizzy!  More endless speculation  :hihi:

Booker, I think only Aunt Ger could answer your question really.  But something tells me she's pissed at us (whiny brats, etc).

Dizzy is a braided blond now, he used to be hippy brown-haired dude.

I recall an interview with Dizzy in 2002 sometime in which he bashed Slash and company. I remeber im saying how Izzy will probally only be there for a couple of weeks, I can't remember the entire thing.

However in an interview he did shortly after that  I recall him wishing the guys the best of luck  :confused:

 I assume he realized he was in position to insult his former band mates that made him and gave him a career.

I asked Dizzy's Aunt Ger (who posts here) if he talked to his former bandmates, and she said she doubted it.

One fan who once posted here said he met Dizzy at a show somewhere and asked Dizzy to sign the first Snakepit record (which Dizzy played on), and Dizzy's response was "I'm not signing that fucking record."

However, Dizzy did say in an interview about VR, "I wish them well, they're great players in their own right."

I think so, yeah...

Not only was he there longer, but least Matt participated in an original Guns N' Roses record.

Axl said matt was an albatross! And that Duff was supporting Slash all the time about anything. I think it means he hate those guys also!
 But I don?t think he?ve got the same feelings for Izzy, Gilby, Teddy or even Steven.

Dizzy gets along with nearly everyone in this world!

I think dizzy would talk to most of the old members of the band....And hey..GILBY was a member of GNR weather u like it or not he was.. :peace:
And he rocks....... : ok:
Id rather Gilby than Izzy....just my oppinion.. :)

sorry but do you know what a fuck that even means?   ;D

I hope dizzy is on some sort of speaking terms with the old members, seeing as they saved his career

I think Axl hates Izzy. Didn't he say in a rant that 'Do you remember the guy Izzy Stradlin'? Fuck Izzy Stradlin'! Izzy wrote the song...all by himself...and this is for Izzy, this is called Double Talkin' Jive Motherfucker' It means hate. Later when they tried to regroup, he fired Izzy without a cause - and Izzy said in the last year that 'Axl is an asshole'. Well, it not necessarly means hate, but they really don't like each other. Axl called Matt an 'albatros', but does not seem to care about him. In his interview, Matt said things about Axl - he doesn't like Axl, or hates, I don't know. And Axl also said nasty things about Duff, but Axl has a bad word for everyone, he's crazy.

Wherever Izzy is, whatever Izzy's doing, I just want the guy to be happy.  That makes me happy.

--Axl, 1993



"Double Talkin Jive Motherfucker" was not about hate.  It was about a double talkin' jive motherfucker.



Izzy quit the band on November 7, 1991.  He wasn't fired.  He only returned briefly to play a few shows for the injured Gilby Clarke in 1993.

"Double Talkin Jive Motherfucker" was not about hate.  It was about a double talkin' jive motherfucker.


Now that's some funny shit.

Matt said that he would rather work with Axl again over Gina Gershwin or somthing like that...

wrong again dude... Vr has been around since 2002... it was called the project for awhile.

Where is this quote from?  It always amazes me how contradictory the red-headed one is.

One minute he calls Izzy up and is real nice to him.  Then when Izzy comes over to his mansion, Axl yells at him, and tells Rolling Stone that "it wouldnt be healthy" to see him again.  What on earth does that mean?  Izzy hasnt been a junkie in a very long time.

Instead he opts for Izzy-lookalikes such as Fortus.  Somebody asks Fortus for his autograph thinking it's Izzy, and Axl takes this as a sign that he should be in the band.... WTF?!

NO LOGIC HERE TODAY!

I think it tends to happen in the life of a bi-polar

Axl said that during the "Making of Don't Cry" video.


Axl meant it wouldn't be emotionally healthy for him to see Izzy again.  Personally, I don't think Axl has any concept of what is healthy for him.  Izzy was the best thing that ever happened to that guy.



Say what?  When did Axl say that?



 Correct.

Is this not true?  Feel free to dispute that with why you believe Gilby is more a GNR member...

Matt was with the band for seven years, played on three albums, two of which were original.  Nothing against Gilby, but how many original GNR records did he contribute to?  Gilby replaced Izzy as rhythm guitarist for touring and a covers project...and he still wasnt even around that long.  

You see, this isnt a topic where the answer is obvious and Im just supposed to know why youre rolling your eyes...so back yourself up, something I dont think Ive ever seen you do.  Explain why Im wrong about this.

Axl and Izzy tried to work together in 1995, when GN'R was looking for a second guitarist, cause Slash didn't want to work with Paul. Axl wanted either Izzy or Zakk, Slash wanted Izzy or Ryan Roxie. As Izzy said in some interviews, he met Axl, and then made a date when he was invited to Axl's house, but the bodyguard didn't allow him to enter, because Axl changed his mind and didn't want to work with Izzy.
If Axl names Izzy (who you are right left the group in 1991 - but Slash said Izzy was between leaving by his own choice and getting fired after an argument with Axl) as a Double talkin' jive person, and 'Fuck Izzy Stradlin'', it means he hates him. Well, sometimes he doesn't - it's like releasing CD. Axl sometimes wants to release it, then changes his mind.

Dizzy, I'm trying to remember exactly where I heard this.  I remember listening to the GNR internet radio, and you know Axl likes to formally introduce the band? Well, he goes through the laundry list "Thomas James Stinson", "Mr. Buckethead", "Monsieur Brain", etc.  And when he gets to Fortus, he mentions the Izzy connection, and you can hear the happiness in his voice!

Perhaps Jarmo can correct (or verify) me on this?  ???

Hey now!! I'm not angry with any of you guys. I'm sorry about the whinner comment too. I just don't like to hear anyone whinning all the time about the same old shit. Anyway.........Dizzy would never shun away from any of the old band members. I do know that last year at his 40th birthday roast in Vegas, that Steven Adler was there and he was quite wasted, but what else is new?? I think everyone had a lot to drink that night, just some a little more. LOL....yeah...........Dizzy never talks bad about any of the old band members. If there were any bad feelings between him and anyone, he sure as hell hasn't told me.  :beer:

Really?  How did he and Dizzy get along?

And was Axl there as well?  The thought of Axl and Steven being in the same room is intriguing.  I wonder how they would react to each other.

Any thoughts?

No it doesn't.  It just means he is angry at Izzy.  I've said things like that to people in the past, and it doesn't mean I hated them, it was just an expression of anger.  There's a difference.

Nah.......Axl wasn't there, but like I said Steven showed up. Not even sure if he was there to help celebrate or just happened to be there. He did talk to Dizzy and wanted to jam but Dizzy refused cause Steven was so wasted, and besides........it was Dizzy's birthday bash. Why should he perform?? All in all everyone had a great time.

Ah good ol' Steven.Everybody has changed,but Steven is still Steven. :hihi:

Say what?  When did Axl say that?

Actually I remember saying this when he introduced the band at the show in Cleveland.

Oh okay, I didn't quite understand that statement at first.  Axl meant that he took it as a sign that Richard should be in the band, because he was mistaken for Izzy.  I initially thought that the statement meant that Axl took it as a sign that Izzy should be back in the band.   :confused: