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what do you think about chemistry between axl and new band with crowd?
i saw rir3,and crowd was  great?

I saw the new band three times... In my honest opinion...

On the older songs, the band really didn't seem to have all that much outstanding chemistry.

Fortus, Stinson, and Finck seem to have bonded a bit... particularly during Rocket Queen.

The only interaction that I've ever seen Buckethead actually have with the other members of the band, in terms of the old songs, was during his solo for Knockin' On Heaven's Door when he would stand up on the top stage near Brain.

However... for the newer songs... most notably Chinese Democracy, the band is fucking great live.

They all look like they are a LOT more into everything on the newer songs, and they just look more relaxed.

So... in a short answer to your question... on the older songs, I think the chemistry isn't nearly as strong as it is on the new songs.

I would have to agree the chemistry was amazing for the new material.

I saw them in Toronto and London, Ontario back to back nights.
Axl was bang on.
The band was excellent. (I was front row both times)
I think the simple fact that Axl is not seen that much in concert or in interviews or videos etc. makes it easy to judge "if he is on or not" I think if we thought about Ozzy or Steven Tyler with 10 year gaps in between preformances we might notice more obvious changes.


Robin and Richard and Tommy were all right in front of me and they seemed to continuously smile and joke with Axl.

To be honest I never would have thought they were not the original line up if  I obviously did not know better.
There were 16-25year old people around me who were blown away by the experience you could tell they had some doubts at the beggining but were floored by the end.

Let's just say as we were all leaving the arena in the middle of the worst snow storm and the whole street was singing patience out loud it was the coolest thing.

P.S I was front row in 1991 for the GUNS Mettalica show also so I have seen both bands twice once in 1992 Dust and Bones as well.

See ya :beer:

I wasn't in any show of the new GNR.. but I think people in Rio 2001 and during 2002 shows was expecting to see Axl and was connected to him, not with the rest of the band.. My perception of the shows I have seen (videos) is that BH on his mask and Finck strange look seem so cold and make no connection with the crowd.

Personaly I use to feel more conncected with the old members, right now I don't even care if anyone of them is in or out the band... The only thing I care about is GNR name and of course Axl's voice.. I only hope this band keep the name on the highest position of RN'R memory.

This new band looks like there's no chemistry.. everyone in the band is different and in the stage you can feel that.

aw...  I love hearing stuff like that... sounds like there was an amazing vibe.  Very cool...  : ok:

i know when we walked out of the HOB gig we were all in a state of euphoria... we knew we had just been part of a magical night... it was like having lived a dream

at the Hard Rock we were again floored...  the band had gotten so much more tight

MSG...  they were amazing.
and to answer your question... yes they have chemistry...  I think the fact that the EIGHT of them hold it together so well is pretty impressive.

EIGHT....  thats not a small cozy #

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i didnt think they were that amazing chemstry wise...it was really AXL's show.

thats really what i thought, from the 1st time i saw live videos : RIR3.

axl is like a rich mad man who has crazy dreams and he pays people to help him achieveing them.

but dont get me wrong, MSG was a great show tho :)

yes it was

something I don' t believe 8 musicians could pull off if they were not in synch...

8 musicians on a stage without cohesion would be a disaster

I went to RIR 3 and I have no doubt you;re very very very wrong... everybody loved the show, the new membres... Robinwere great singing a braziliansong, Buckethead solos were amazing.

I was at the Pittsburgh show. As stated, all eyes were on Axl for most of it, and the rest of the guys seemed kind of lifeless. But then after Patience, which seemed to somewhat lull the crowd into a state of calmness, the confetti cannons blazed and they tore into "Chinese Democracy", and the whole place went insane.  The band was definitely more into it than anything else, and everybody in the place was out of their seat. That proved that this band is capable of anything, and definitely has a ton of faith in their original material.

I think the band has amazing chemistry, especially Richard, Tommy, and Axl, and then Finck when he's in the mix.

I thought the new band had great chemistry. I saw them twice.

correct.
chemistry and feeling are things you can't buy with money, contrary to "band members" or "employees"...Axl should think about that.

i saw them 3 times. i thought their chemistry was good, not great.

interaction with the crowd varied from show to show.  

the Original Guns n' Roses was a real band
the "new" Guns n' Roses is just a band with a singer, and 6 or 7 "employees" around him who could be fired at EVERY MOMENT. That's not how Rock n' Roll is or should be. People are not stupid. we see it. we feel they don't have "it". Nothing special. look at the PARIS'92 show and you'll understand how Rock n' Roll should be played.

Izzy & youngunner are already duking this out in the Brain/Buckethead thread.

All eyes are naturally on Axl whether he's on stage with a band or a circus.

If Axl performs well, people will say the band has great chemistry. If Axl sucks, people will say GNR sucks.  It's all about Mr. Rose.  Everything else is irrelevant.

yeah right, it's all about Axl and that's sad.  Guns n' Roses should be a band like it was back in the days. now, it's just a one man show with 8 clowns around him.

"I didn't listen to Guns n' Roses" (Brain, before joining the band)
"Guns n' Roses wasn't the kind of band I listened to" (Stinson)

"just a little dollar....doooollllllar....just a little dollar, dooooollaar"

Don't them clowns, you're fucking insulting these guys and everything they've done musically over the years. What have you done? Nothing.

the only things they have done musically over the years are...solo albums.
I will change my mind IF I feel that "chinese democracy" is a sincere record.
MONEY IS NOTHING, FEELING IS EVERYTHING.
Rock n' Roll isn't a thing you can buy. it comes from your soul.

Weren't you leaving this board?  ???

You seem to try to turn as many threads as possible into whiny threads about how the new band sucks. How about you read the topic and stick to it? If it doesn't say "Buckethead vs Slash", then don't talk about that subject in that thread. Same thing if it doesn't say "The new band is a bunch of hired clowns"....


If you're gonna keep up your behavior, maybe we can make you leave. Getting tired of telling you to stick to the topics.

I can understand that threads evolve, that's not the problem. The problem I have is that some people try to turn a lot of threads into whining about the new band, the "classic" BH vs Slash debate etc.



/jarmo

 the new GnR have a really good chemestry onstage. when i went to the chicago gig we were blown away. my friend nick was goin insane during any of bucketheads fast solo's especially nightrain! and the band really shines during paradise city. even my friend max who didnt like GnR at all even said after the show was over that he has a new respect for GnR. he now owns nearly all of GnR's cd's. all the people i want with that night were really into them, and finck really clicked with me and Max because we are both artistic people and we both understood finck.

I recognize they play "Nightrain" very well.
did you see young people around you? (I mean teenagers). how did they react?

 the people who i was with were mostly teenagers. and the other teenagers that were in the crowd that i could see were having a awsome time!! on the way out a few of them were talking about how kick ass they were. it was a really awsome show and everyone had a awsome time. one guy was talkin bout how buckethead really shreads. and the conversation in the car on the way back to where i live we talked about how the band really rocks and how it is pure genious to have a pure shreader and then on the other hand have a very emotional guy there and they play very well together!

If that was the case how come these group of guys have been together since 98/99?
If that was the case how come Axl hasnt fired robin a zillion times? Robin has said he and axl have always fought about shit and music.
If that was the case how come Robin is back in the band even after he left?

Im sick n tired of this rock n roll bullshit. Rock n roll is something undefined. Thats what makes it rock n roll. Its not supposed to be by the book. Half of you people cant get over the past and thats fine. The past was great. And they created their own rock n roll vibe in history.

This band isnt that kind of rnr. They are their own.  Members come and go. In a perfect world you would love to see any original lineup dominate for years. But being its rnr that doesnt happen often.

If you cant get over the fact that this band calls themselves gnr tough fukin shit. This band has great chemistry.

You dont think they do because they dont run around liek slash used to? Wow that dsefines chemistry. This band is always joking around with each other on stage and shit liek that. Watch every pc they fukin go crazy.
the funnyt thing is on one hand you people critisize them for playing the old songs and then the same peopel say they dont show any emotion when playing those songs. No shit. its not there songs.

They have done a great job when playing the old material. They have sucked it up and just had fun wth it.

You peopel think bucket doesnt care or wann abe there because he doesnt move around that much. lol no way?

I saw the new lineup in Minneapolis. Robin actually interacted really well with the crowd but could tell he wasn't too hyped to be playing Sweet Child O Mine. That's just the feeling I had. On some of the rockers like out to get me and brownstone, rocket queen and PC he was really into it. Tommy was hyped the whole show and really into the crowd and Axl. But it was his homecoming! Buckethead... I don't know what to think about him. He's a good player but I"m not really into his thing. Richard was by far the most energetic and interacted the most with the rest of the band especially tommy and axl. Also with the crowd. Brain? He looked bored to me. The show kicked ass though. I also saw the old lineup twice and Axl never really interacted with the others too much in my opinion. None of the guys really were into the crowd either, more into themselves I thought.
One more note, the show with the new band at Target center blew the other two away. The band sounds awesome live.

the LONDON docklands show was awesome i was standing in the queue waiting to go in next to some dude dressed as Buckethead i remember seeing him while weezer was on at the front while i was sitting middle back. When GNR came on two songs into set Axl spotted the guy and asked him for the hat which he got and then went on to perform with the KFC hat on for a couple of songs it dosnt show up on VCD footage as some wanker recorded it and kept talking and hiding camera. But i though axls interaction was pretty good seemed better at LEEDS though.

I forgot about that! That was cool - but what wasn't cool was the fact I was driving a 5.0 Mustang Cobra and it took me 6 hours and about 12 good samaritan pushes to get back to Hamilton. (usually a 1 hour drive)  I was at both shows too - Toronto Row 4 - London Row 17.  Those shows back to back were amazing.  Toronto was slightly better though, I thought.

I've seen them twice and never noticed chemistry one way or the other. Buckethead has no chemistry with anyone, which is kind of his thing, so that doesn't matter to me. Axl seems to have an avuncular relationship with most of the band.... sort of like he says, it's the "Uncle Axl" thing. I really didn't think there was a ton of chemistry with the UYI lineup either, at least between Axl and the others. So there's not much lost there. Probably the only time chemistry is really apparent is between Tommy and Fortus, which is no surprise since they are good friends. Musically they sound very tight regardless of chemistry.