Here Today... Gone To Hell!

 :crying:
I tried to go to the GNR related message board over @ Bucketheadland.com and it sends me straight over to the regular bucketboard.  I've never seen this happen before and it worries me w/ all the Buckethead rumors from earlier.  Could anyone find out what's going on.  It just isn't there any more.  I hope I'm reading more into this than I should!

Suddenly Laswell's comments begin to make more and more sense...

-PEACE-

I just sent Greg the admin to try and find out what's up.

The fact that the entire Buckethead-GNR section is gone is not exactly a good thing...

-PEACE-

That's ok, but don't get your hopes up to high about him. He really likes it to tell people that he can't give any 'personal' information on Buckethead.

-PEACE-

Here's what I sent and just got back from them.  Is this a basic response or is this actually the Admin?  I don't know what to think. :confused:

We thank you for visiting that ride in the park.  The ride is non-operational and non-functional.  Thanks for visiting, and we hope that you visit the Bucketboard.
----- Original Message -----
From: *********
To: Greg@Bucketheadland.com
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 7:45 AM
Subject: GNR related board


Dear Greg, I looked @ the site today and it didn't have the GNR related board there anymore.  What's happening?  Is it just temporarily done or is this a sign of things to come?  Thanks.

A few weeks back I made the first post on the new Bucket GnR board. It was pretty long and waffled on abt Madagascar and Rio. It got a few replies, then there were some more posts abt Rio etc, then the whole of my thread disappeared, and now this.

I'm quite bothered. But then, Mysteron did state strongly during the last rumours that Bucket WAS in GnR. Apparently so did Bucket by nodding at that recent show when asked.

Also, I just bought a ticket from May 30th. If something sickening had happened i.e. Bucket had left, I imagine GnR would have been withdrawn from the lineup before today.

You never know, this could just be a way of making some controversy, lower expectations?

Mysteron?

That makes me feel sick. If it's just Bucketspeak, this Greg should have more consideration for fans and not get us all worked up for nothing. If it's meant to be read into, well..... :nervous:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Don?t let this be!

This is no basic response. I have talked to him in the past. I really think that this is Bucketheadland's way of saying that currently there is no GNR- Buckethead link anymore.... Whenever things are just caused by technical difficulties they always say things like "temporarily unavailable, stay tuned" or "closed due to maintenance". This sounds serious to me....

-PEACE-

They always talk in kinda mysterious theme-park terms....

-PEACE-  

Guns N Roses are "non-operational and non-functional"????

 ??? :( :no: :nervous:

If he's out of the band, why not just post a news article mentioning it?

They're not allowed to talk about GN'R or what?



/jarmo

NOW, you're reading too much into it. They only ( :-[) talk on matters concerning Buckethead, the "Buckethead - GNR" connection.

-PEACE-

Jarmo, they are likely all in iron clad contracts which prevent any kind of disclosure not given consent by Axl. That's why they never ever say much when asked.

Which is what makes this worrying because it *could* be Bucket's way of saying something.

It could not aswell, but we've been waiting 11 years for CD and a real comeback. We all have a right to be jittery about this.

Seems to be that way, I guess...

If Buck would be out the band chances are big that Brain is out too. They always where kind of a duo-package... The last things Axl needs at the moment is having to announce that two bandmembers have left...

-PEACE-

Looks to me that they only have one section for everything.  It says the board is for anything Buckethead related.  I would think GNR is Buckethead related to you can talk about them.   IS anybod here a member on that forum?  If so, just post something GNR related, maybe about RIR.

I tried to post it said thank you for your post and it never showed up! :rant:

well
i dont wanna make any drama or whatever
but if you look at all that happened in GNR since 2001.
you can't, just can't say that the delay was due to some normal marketing, buisness, technical, inspiration problems .....
GNR and AXL are having REAL problems. something serious
it could be court and justice issues, or members problems, but it can't just be " axl wanna make a good cd ..."
.....
what could be a big issue in the band : someone leaving.


 ???

One can't be a member at the Bucketboard, I have been posting there for years. When things between Buck and GNR got real serious (touring and stuff) they specially openend up that GNR-section (which was quite big because they never had a Cornbugs or Praxis section for example). They didn't want any Slash vs. Buckethead kind of topics in the regular Buckethead section. Pulling the plugs from the GNR-section gives me the impression that the reason it was constructed for, does no longer exist...

I really hope I'm wrong, but suddenly Laswell makes more sense then Mysteron (who I greatly respect, but also is only human and can't know everything).

-PEACE-

I think they verify your post and then post it. I think its pretty gay but thats Bucket for you.  :confused:

All posts are screened on the Bucketboard, to prevent people from revealing any personal Buckethead-info. It sometimes can take several hours before a contribution actually gets posted.

-PEACE-  

I just asked Greg to ellaborate and got the same reply as the last one.

Yup, don't expect too much from him...

But it's a very clear signal.... When I posted the things Laswell told us in Belgium, many people replied that the GNR-section at Bucketheadland was still going strong and therefore nothing could be wrong (but suddenly it's gone). Well assuming that they really can't speak (because of Axl's lawyers) the only way to really make a statement is to do this.

I don' t expect them to suddenly wanting to discuss Buckethead's GNR-deal in the normal section. They never wanted that, that's why the other section was there...

-PEACE-

Well, IF Buckethead really is OUT of GN'R, why don't we ask the guys at Sanctuary ourselves??
I remember a few months ago a website posted a news saying Bucket was out of the band. I contacted Sanctuary to know what was going on...I'm pretty sure lots of people did the same because it seemed like Sanctuary "contacted" the website and less than 12 hours after the "news" was posted, the website deleted it from their news page.

I'm going to contact them right now. Maybe Mysteron can help us out too in case he's online.

Was the GNR section the only other section at their forum?

damn i hope this is BS

i?m going to buy my ticket to rock in rio tomorrow and now i see this!!

dammit , why can GNR be a normal band!!

(tries to be positive) or all the solo sites-like Tommy's and Robin's will be strictly for their solo work. The Gnr board was not exactly "happening" at Bucketheadland. Maybe there will be an official Gnr site coming soon and Buckethead sees no reason to have Gnr info on his site. I don't really believe this but I hope I am right.

i think we should all calm down, even if in a worst case scenario BH is out, he'll come back, just like robin did in the past. but since we don't really know anything and all this is based on specultation the most positive thing to do is to assume that everything is still the same in the GNR world cuz lets face, its not like they've make a whole lotta changes over the past years, the only thing they're actually pretty good at, is absolutly doing nothing :beer:

http://www.bucketheadland.com/BoardBucketList.asp?brd=2

Yes


It was never intented to be "happening". Its sole purpose was to avoid any Buck vs Slash topics in the regular forum. Many people posting there are experts on guitar and play like half gods. They didn't see a point in defending their ultimate virtuoso (Buck) to players like Slash (who's playing really doesn't impress them), especially in the context of a band they didn't like to begin with (GNR).

The fact that it wasn't a very popular board didn't matter. What was important was the fact that they had a place to send one to whenever the GNR-topic got mentioned... seems that they don't expect that to happen anymore...

-PEACE-

I'm amazed at the panic a messageboard going down causes.

Everybody have a smoke  :smoking:

@#$%Muther

Lol, i can't believe everyone was just about to comit hari kari and the board is still there after all.  :beer:


Buckethead Rulez  : ok:

Well its still not linked at his site.  :no:

I hope Madagas is right and this could really be a start for something big, not and end.  With all the rumors of news coming soon, wouldn't be nice if this was the first sign of things to come?
2. Greatest hits leaves Geffen's web site
3. updated gnr website with just a date
4. More rumors of tours and such
5. All of a sudden......
We're back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AXL speaks gives the reason for the delay
official web site has real news
Confirms Rio and Euro dates
CD has an official release date
single comes out
first video
Guns makes the biggest comeback in music history!!!
WAKE ME UP I MUST BE DREAMING!!!

Or it just could mean that we're screwed!

*wakes u up*

The board still isn't accesible through the normal link. Take this and the fact that Greg the admin already confirmed it to be not available anymore and I really don't see a reason to be that optimistic. Really the fact that via some link the board still can be viewed doen't make up for that email from Greg and the removed official link...

-PEACE-  
 
 

The board is still there (http://www.bucketheadland.com/BoardBucketList.asp?brd=2 (http://www.bucketheadland.com/BoardBucketList.asp?brd=2)), it's just not linked like it was. We'll know soon enough if Bucket is really out of GN'R.

Btw, Mutherfunker, no one's panicking, we're just looking for answers... ;)

Slipdisc, I understand that-you missed my point. Maybe Buckethead just doesn't want any Gnr discussion on his board at all. You can discuss his involvement at other sites.

i will buy my ticket tomorrow , if GNR doesnt show up  , me and meanbone will make sure that things are going to get destroy :P

 :rofl:
that is HOW we need to think
RIOT is the only thing that gets guns n roses in the news  ;D

No really I didn't miss your point...

Him not wanting any GNR discussions on his board wouldn't make any sense, like you said before "the gnr sections wasn't actually happening". Why remove something that what constructed with such solid reasons (No gnr on the regular board), to prevent things from happening that weren't happening at the first place (fierce discussions)?

When Buckethead still is in GNR, removing that paticular section would make no sense at all. edit: Even if some other great site is coming or whatever, they just want something to direct people to who want to discuss GNR on Bucketheadland.


That would be nice but didn't you see what the admin said? It might be still possible to view the board (as we all see) but the official way to get there is gone, the admin even confirmed it in his mail..

-PEACE-

Lets hope for the best, but after Laswell and this it's increasingly difficult for me...

-PEACE-

well... if buckethead isn't in the band, i just might not go to the concert after all, as much as i love Axl and Gnr, Buckethead brought this band alive for me, so, i dunno. i'll just wait and see

Slipdisc, I'm with you. This isn't good at all...just trying to be positive. I wonder if Dizzy's "details" that need to be worked out is in reference to individual band members contracts, record label disagreements, etc. I imagine this is considered a fresh start for the band and maybe Axl could not strike a deal with Buckethead going forward. It will take an act of God to get this album released. >:(

Yeah Bucketheadland probably are mistaken about their own concept, after all it's them who constructed the GNR-board in the first place...

 ::)

-PEACE-

This is amazing, Lots of rumours about positive things instantly shot down in flames, 1 messageboard goes missing, and all hell breaks loose about what it must mean

 ::)

@#$%Muther

It's always good to stay positive please do so! The thing with me is that I heard Laswell say these things in Belgium... that's what makes it hard for me to stay positive (especially with this thing happening).

-PEACE-

It's just Buckethead's official website of which the admin regularly speaks to Buckethead to be informed about the latest news. Relax?

-PEACE-

I still think it is irresponsible to make a change like this to a website without explaining

Agreed. Just a short message to explain the situation, so there would be no room for speculation.

I think that the actual changing of the website is an explanation. When the GNR-camp is holding on to the information-flow (even if Buckethead is out he might not be allowed to bring news on GNR), this is the only way to make some sort of a statement...

Bucketheadland can be forced to not talk about GNR, but they can't be forced by GNR to maintain the facilities (GNR-section) relevant to GNR they created themselves...

-PEACE-

Skeba & Mysteron,

Are either of you suggesting (meaning you have some firsthand knowledge) that the explanation is other than what is being assumed here?

Just fishing for some clarification

I'm not checking Buckethead's status again.....I'm just saying that this change to Bhead's official website will lead some to conclude that he has left....which is irresponsible

Now, Greg, webmaster of Bucketheadland.com is just a paid puppet. He does what he is told, so it has nothing to do with him. I assume his instructions have come from Bhead himself, so it is he that is being irresponsible

Edit --> I checked again anyway, he's still with gnr, so don't worry

That's cool.  It just seemed from your post you might KNOW, already, what the reason is, and that it was contrary to the assumed reason within the thread.  I wanted to see if, perhaps, you had more info... :)

Thanks for that!
Nothing new (in sight) regarding the album/tour?

Best regards,

N ! 3 |(

great to hear that mysteron!! you rule  ;D

Greg has shown on numerous occasions that he is running his own show overthere. I highly doubt that somebody who is as loyal to (all) his fans as Buckethead would approve of something like this.

Unless this is the only way he can put out a clear signal about his future in GNR (The ride is non-operational and non-functional), without violating any prior agreements with GNR.

-PEACE-

I really wish I could still believe in that, but one of Buck's biggest friends and now his official website really seem to point out different things....

-PEACE-

In truth, the web site didn't really say anything.  We're just making assumptions. In truth, I can see a few reasons why the board would be removed:

1) BH has left the band

2) GnR is about to "relaunch" and they want all the fans centralized, rather than posting at the individual members sites.

3) The webmaster got fed up with the amount of work it takes to mod that forum.  Since all the posts have to be "approved" by the mod(s) before they appear, I imagine that would be quite a bit of work.  Filtering the BS rumors and "anti GnR" posts might have been a bit too much.  

yeah, but again bucket himself confirmed he's still in the band at the grammy's.

The grammy's took place before he played with Material in Belgium, it was there where Bill told us that he didn't expect Buck to join GNR at RIR.

-PEACE-

It has alwyas been this way overthere (the filtering) they knew that before they created the section. Judging by the few post the board was getting it could hardly cause much stress. Anti- GNRposts? They have no problem with that (especially Greg)....

-PEACE-

I'm not surprised...we're just over-analyzing stuff. Bucket will play with GN'R for Rock in Rio, I believe that.
I don't see Greg's email as an indication saying Bucket has left. To me it's just a weird coded message which he certainly finds funny but I am confident Bucket still is in GN'R. As for Bill's comment, my opinion is that he doesn't necessarily like the fact that GN'R fans come to his show just because of Bucket and he may not be happy about Bucket playing in GN'R (he would rather have him with him I'm sure).

Edit > Slipdisc, are you trying to convince us that Bucket left GN'R?? Your posts lean towards that direction. I understand you're worried but I don't see anything official (not a message board of some weird email) saying Bucket is out.

The whole point is...maybe they THOUGHT they knew how much additional work it would generate..and were VERY wrong.  See what I'm saying?

And you came up with the 4th reason on your own....maybe Greg just eliminated it because he's sick and tired of GnR, and doesn't really like BH's association with the band.  You say he runs his own show over there...and if that's true, maybe that's why he did it.

My point is that BH leaving the band isn't the ONLY possibility.  It's not even, with the information we have, the most likely.  It's JUST as likely, I think, as any of the other 3 scenarios we've now come up with, but certainly not more likely.

Thank you Pilferk, someone can talk sense.  : ok:

@#$%Muther

They always talk like that over there. It?s supposed to be a theme park. Every album and collaboration (like buck with gnr) are referred to as ?rides?. It has always been this way. When I hear them say; ?The ride is non-operational and non-functional?, in that context it?s quite troubling?.


I don?t think so, he is one of the people who have always believed in Buckethead from the beginning. Buckethead was playing there because Bill asked him to fill in for the regular guitarplayer of Material. If Bill would have had a problem with people just coming to see Buckethead he would have asked another.

?.and lets not forget that all the RIR-talk started after both he and the roadie first confirmed (and brought up) Buckethead?s current illness (at least that?s what they said). Before that nobody ever mentioned gnr?

-PEACE-


PS: Let's hope for the best!!! (that's what I said then, and that's what I say now) RIRIV will bring the answers, I just hope that I will like them.

I don't know which information you are referring to but I was in Gent and saw and heard Laswell say these things (believe me he wouldn't do so out of mere frustrations or other odd reasons). I don't know about Mysteron's sources, but surely one of Buck's biggest friends should count for something. The greatest Hits thing isn't exactly good news in my book either...

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Yeah that's probably it, Sherlock.

There have been few people who have defended Buck's place in GNR the way I did in the past. Not only on this board but on many others too. There are numerous people in the GNR-fancommunity who have seen everything I am talking about. Don't come to me with that kind of bullshit. Try standing up for Buckethead (in GNR) the way I did, then come again...

The day it becomes official that Buckethead has left gnr (God forbid) will be a very sad day in my book. I just have the feeling that this day isn't that far away anymore... that's all.

-PEACE-

Greg said that he does and says what he is told to...and that's what he gets paid for. Source there is Greg himself

Nothing with Bucket is straight-forward, but he is still with gnr - Source there is Sanctuary

Conclusion - Buckethead is a nice guy, but also a very random one.....so it's best not to look too deep into anything he does or says

Read my post again.  Read it a couple of more times. Keep reading it. Chant it like a mantra....my point is that we have nothing conclusive to base any assumptions on, therefore, no scenario, considering the conflicting information, is more likely than any other.

Yes, one of the possibilities is that BH has left GnR.  But it's not the only possibility.  Given all the information posted in this thread, and over the past few weeks (Bucket acknowledging he was GnR's guitarist, Mysteron's posts which, FYI, are confirmations from managemnt that he's recieved) it isn't even, overwhelmingly, the most likely.  That's my point.  You can assume anything you'd like.  But arguing that you're somehow "right" is sorta pointless...

Also, notice that even Laswell didn't say anything conclusive.  You said so yourself...he only said "he didn't think Bucket would be with GnR at RIR:L".  He didn't say "Nah, Bucket quit", or anything else conclusive.

THE POINT IS, we are discussing AGAIN IF gnr will play RIR 4, IF BHEAD is in the band, MAYBE the next step is email all the radio station, mtv asking questions about the status of GNR AGAIN, IF bhead is LEAVING the band AGAIN, some people CLOSE to the band is telling his "truth", and we are talking and making rumors on our own and tomorrow the name "GUNS N ROSES" and "BUCKETHEAD - THAT WEIRDO GUITARRIST" will be in all the radion stations, all the fans sites and then, BUCKETHEAD IS ON THE NEWS!  : ok:

great marketing  :hihi:

Wow.... could.... this.... mean..... no.... surely it can't mean that that board is not operational/functioning?

Amongst all this "Buckethead is leaving" crap that people get from this one sentence, my theory must be waaayyyyy too crazy to contemplate.  :hihi:

@#$%Muther

Offcourse he does.... the arrogant little f*cker, always chooses the easiest way out of a conversation.


I know what you 're saying no need to get cocky about it. I just think that with the things that have happened today I have MORE reasons to believe that Laswell was telling the truth, don't know it for sure no. But nonetheless more reasons to believe him.


I'm not arguing I'm right, I'm just pointing out that I see these things as very clear signals that something isn't right. The last person to hope something actually isn't right would be me. Why would I argue about it?

I'm just explaining why I see this as some seriously disturbing signals from Buckethead in reference to GNR.

-PEACE-

Don't think so Watson. We allready have seen that the board is still there (somebody posted the link before). What's disturbing is that somebody (although the board is still there) took the effort to remove the official link to it and decided to refer to it (but more likely GNR) as not operational/ non functional. The rides in Bucketheadland are the albums and collaborations...not the boardsections (he refered to that ride)

-PEACE-

Greg would be pissing his pants if he reads this, he takes a messageboard down and we create 4 pages of theories on it.  :hihi:

What things?

If the chances of him being right before were 50%, they now must be 50.001% so technically that could be true.

@#$%Muther

i missed what Laswell  said

what did he said?

Guns like to delay things, do they not?

Over at Buckethead's GN'R board, someone asked if anyone believed that Axl would release Chinese Democracy some day.

The "Magic 8-Ball" suggested that we should 'Ask again later'  ::)

Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah riiiiiiiiight, moving on nothing to see here people!!  :hihi:



Could be so, glad you took the time to make some calculations.... If they are just as good as your reasoning then don't considder it as a profession. The only thing you have done so far is agreeing to everything you like and act like an ass about everything else.

I really hope Mysteron's sources are accurate, we'll see it at RIR. When Buckethead steps out on that stage I will the happiest man on the planet  :hihi: : ok:

-PEACE-

I'm not being an ass, just expressing my opinion.

1). I think Greg would find it funny if all this is just because he decided to take the board down.

2). I don't think this means anything regarding Buckethead in GNR

3). "What things?" was a serious question, which you were an ass about. You make it sound like some big series of significant events.

4). I know I could be wrong, but this is my opinion.

5). I never said you were wrong, or insulted you, so relax  :smoking:

@#$%Muther

So, IF he's out, wouldn't Chinese Democracy be delayed once again, for re-recording?

I have been around the Bucketboard long enough to know that taking down a whole board and refering to a certain aspect of Buckethead's carreer as non-funtional is a very big deal.


Same here!


Ok the ass-thing was a bit too much I admit, sorry for that... If I would be anymore relaxed right now I would be sleeping.  : ok:

-PEACE-

Right, Slipdisc, but also usually we found out WHY a ride went off, right?

Damn ... I usually trust Mysteron 100%, but this time ... May it be that Sanctuary doesn't know by now or that they aren't allowed to say something or maybe they're trying to get Buck to stay if he left?

I'm lost on this one...


/lastroots

Sometimes yes, but not always.... it's up to Greg I guess...


me too

-PEACE-

Wow, calm down pal. I was just asking you a question. I'm just surprised you're so convinced the signs you saw prove Bucket has left.

"Don't come to me with that kind of bullshit. " > is that a general comment for anyone who doesn't think Bucket has left? I'm sorry I don't understand your point. I certainly stood up for Bucket in GN'R against all the negativity and there's no bullshit here, simply the fact that Sanctuary says Bucket still is with GN'R. No offense to Greg or Bill, but to me it means a lot.

No that?s a basic comment for people who even think that I would try to convince people of Buckethead leaving GNR? Why would I want to convince anybody about it? At the moment the person who is most hoping that I'm wrong is me...


No offense to sanctuary, but Bill and Greg saying these things means a lot? even if Greg is arrogant as hell?

-PEACE-

No, I was saying I was surprised to see you were almost convinced that Bucket has already left the band.

I understand Bill's and Greg's comments worry you, and they certainly worry me as well but I just don't think Bucket has left. But we'll see soon enough! :peace:

Roger dodger, over under!  : ok: :peace:

-PEACE-

Mystereon,  did you mention the reason for our concern to Sanctuary..?  About the link to the GN'R message board being removed from Buckethead's site and Greg's "non operational" response..?  If you can tell us whether you specifically mentioned these things it would really put our minds at easy a lot.  Thank you in advance for any response you can provide.

Those things were specifically mentioned

As I said, Sanctuary said nothing is ever straight forward with Buckethead, but he is still with gnr. Just stop looking too deep into things

Lisbon is now only 13 weeks away. The nature of gnr's return and all the other rumours will be put to rest, either before or at Lisbon

Let's just sit back now and see what happens

in other news, the tickets for Rock in Rio went on sale today and sold pretty damn well, cuz it made headlines in the evening news.   : ok:

so its granted GNR will play RIR right?

Yep, the nice thing about all of this is that we know for a fact a date on which we can expect some news.... that's a new concept.

-PEACE-

Yep.... I'm not worried about that (just about Buck joining them).

-PEACE-

Hasn't there been rumors that Buckethead has tried to quit several times in the past, and that Robin and Bucket don't exactly get along, and when someone talked to Brain during the tour he said there was bickering between the two.  Add all that up and i wouldn't say Buckethead is 100% behind staying in this band.  

It's very possible that this is just another time Buckethead has said "I quit" to Axl, and that Axl has told Sanctuary to not worry cuz he'll convince Buckethead otherwise.  Hence Sanctuary is playing this off as nothing, yet all signs from Buckethead's camp point to his removal from the Gn'r situation.  

i think that even though bucket and finck may not get along, axl and the kfc fiend have a very strong bond and personal respect for one another that keeps the band intact. Axl has always been good to bucket; i seriously doubt that this friction would cause a contract breaking fissure in the band.

bucket gets paid very well for, so far, a limited amount of work and promise for a huge expansion of his solo career when the new album takes off. Bucket cannot lose if he stays.,

So what if the Bucketboard has no GNR section anymore?

He is a solo artist first and foremost for cryin' out loud.

You guys are reading way to much into this....

Gnr fans have mastered the art of reading too much into something.....

Rio4 will have all the answers and we will have a new bootleg to watch a zillion times !!! cant wait.

got some translation here.....

?The ride is non-operational and non-functional? -does this mean Bucket's involvement, or just GNR in general? coupled with a greatest hits album, are we just hearing more and more that CD and future touring is nowhere to be found? i think they'll show up at RIR, but they've done that before and not much beyond bootlegs came from it.

i hate to think that way, and i don't know if i do, but it would be very upsetting.

6 pages deep, huh?  It's been a really dry spell for all of us...Truth be told, Bucket's my main reason for the excitement that this project has for me (Besides that little Red-Headed fucking demon)....I'd be pretty gutted about any severance, but I hope there's no need for concern.  Maybe Greg's simply a skullfuck, maybe the board got too cumbersome to maintain, considering there's about as much action there as a dating night at an old folks home, perhaps, as Pilferk mentioned, Sanctuary is attempting to round up the troops under the GNR banner, or perhaps Bucket feels content with the existance of his 37 projects and cult status and headed for the hills after waiting so long...we'll see soon enough...
cheers
joe

This wouldn't be the first time Buckethead has hinted at news on the website if that's in fact what he has done.  I remember a few years back when they had those two Vegas shows.  Before news got out anywhere, it was posted inconginto in Buckethead's coop in a Christmas pictures "2 Shows in Vegas."  

For those who suggest that we look too much into his hints on the website.  Buck uses his site, unlike SOME people!

I hope we hear news before or during RIR,  but what makes everyone so confident that we will ?

It's not unlike axl to tour or do a show and not explain what's going on with his new album --- see tour 2002.

And if he does say it's coming soon, isn't that the same as see ya next summer.

The only news we'll know for sure at RIR is whether the band is still intact and whether they decide to play a different set.

I choose not to believe any of axl's rants (although they are entertaining) and choose to believe the record company when they annouce the official release date of CD.  If they announce then we'll know they've ripped the disc from axl's dead or alive hands.

I hope Buckethead is gone.  His contrived, cartoon, un-rock 'n roll image is like a stale joke that just keeps getting told over and over and over again.  I'd like to see Axl put together a new band that doesn't look like a Saturday Night Live parody.  

Helloooo?  Robin Finck?  1997 called.  It wants it's goth makeup back.    :hihi:

real intelligent...if you want to see bad fortune come to the band then why waste ur time with it? get out more..

I guess that us GN'R fans get nervous at anything that isn't expected.I mean if Buckethead is not in GN'R anymore should that really surprise us?I thought that we were used to unexpected things happening with GN'R.

I tried to post something on the Bucket board,but ofcourse it didn't get posted.I wish I knew what the hell was going on,but as usual I have no idea. :nervous:

I heard that Finck and Bucket started to get along OK. They just had problems when they first got on tour 2001...

I love Slash, but if that's your logic then Helloooo? Slash? 1980's called. It wants it's leather pants back  :hihi:

I'd love to see what you wear so I can sit here and make jokes about it. Robin is Robin, and Slash is Slash, and Buckethead is Buckethead. It's called individuality. If this band ever starts dressing and acting like people want them too, then it really is the end for GNR.

@#$%Muther

Sorry to post twice in a row but rumours are rife over on velvetrope.com that this is the replacement for Buckethead:

(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/jovantisma/Hamburglar.jpeg)

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

@#$%Muther

I dont think Bucket himself knows if he's in GNR or not.

And screw all the mumbu jumbo crap coming out of anyone involved with GNR. I have totally had enough of it.

Just give it to us straight will ya? This aint rock n roll, this is comedy.

Sadly, that could be exactly the state of GNR right now.


Buckethead could very well be the best guitar player alive today. Simple, and hard to argue against. Technically, he's astounding. That said, i don't care who plays with Axl... Bucket or Fink, ALONE, would be enough for Axl to make an extraordinary album... and as far as we know, CD is close enough to done. the only question is when do we get to hear the last 10-15 years of Axl's genius.

Axl's a genius,yeah right :hihi:

I?m not confident about hearing any news BEFORE RIR4. The only thing I?m confident about is that GNR will go out on stage and that in a few seconds it will be very clear whether Buck is still there or has left. That?s the news I was aiming at with that statement, since this topic is about Buckethead.


Aaah yes Bucketrose, last time I saw you having extensive opinions about Buckethead your statements/post where getting progressively ignorant, childish and biased (and short). It?s good to see that some things never change.

Wouldn't clues have more room to fit in your head if you got rid of some of the shit in there?


Right on!!  : ok:


-PEACE-

B-head is gone its over now we can all cry and get over it and wait another 2 yrs at least till CD is done....or if axl does the right thing he will just leave it as 2 guitars
late
jake

 : ok:


No chicken bucket required.

Oh, and speak of the height of irony...a Buckethead Trekkie-type fan/follower calling me "childish."  That one oughta hold me over for the rest of the week.   :hihi:

No offense but clearly you don't follow the workings of the bucketheadland site. Trying to get any REAL news out of the admin is a looooooong shot. My guess is because he doesn't know about what's going on anyway.

Someone posted about the admin "regularly" speaking to Buckethead? Somehow I doubt this. But Greg's said before that he doesn't get paid to do whatever he's doing for Buckethead. So, now he IS getting paid? God help Buckethead...

Mysteron has mentioned countless times that the plans will be all revealed in the leadup to Lisbon and/or during Lisbon. He seems to be pretty confident and concrete on that.

So for me, and Im speaking for a lot of people I think, that I'm really optomistic that it'll come then.. but if it doesnt.. then i'll be pissed! OR if he gets up at Lisbon and says "Soon"

 :smoking:

how do you all "know" that Bucket and Robin arn't getting along?

I don't think anyone knows a damn thing :smoking:

look at Buckethead (S)coop page.
http://www.bucketheadland.com/bucketheadscoop/index.html

on BH the word FUNERAL

Bucket almost always has funeral written on his bucket.  I think it has to do with the fact that chicken bones are under the bucket on top of his head...it doesn't have a GNR significance.

The Funeral is always there..

it should work:

http://bucketheadland.com/BoardBucketList.asp?brd=2

but maybe it doesn`t.

Helloooo? Bucketrose? Your village called. They want their idiot back?. :hihi: :rofl:


Trekkie-type fan/follower?? Wow, your entire vocabulary in just one sentence. I bet that hurts! ::)

The way you have been responding in this thread (and others) really shows what kind of person we?re dealing with here. Your threads are equally sad as they are ignorant. They would matter if at some point in the past you would have shown to have some sort of a clue about the things you talk. Instead of that all we have learned from you is that Madagascar is a classic GNR-song and that wearing leather pants is essential for playing guitar.  : ok: :rofl:

Really, call me whatever you want, after the things we have seen coming from you it really doesn?t matter. In the meantime I?ll just watch you make a bigger fool out of yourself with every new thread you post. :yes:

But hey don?t worry, next time I need your monkeybrained opinion, I?ll just rattle your cage.


Funeral on the Bucket is a tribute to the old-model KFC bucket he wears. That particular Bucket (with the same striping like one of his flying V guitars) isn?t made anymore.

-PEACE-

The GNR message board has been taken off Buckethead's official site, www.bucketheadland.com. Could this be a sign of the end of his participation in GNR projects?

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=14190

apparently, changes have been made to the Dizzy website too  :no:

They removed the downloads.......



/jarmo

The original poster over there in that thread states:

"has anyone noticed that Dizzy's website lost the downloads section today, and that the information on the next show stresses that NO gnr songs will be played? Do you think this means he is pissed with Axl/out of the band? "

I went to www.dizzyreed.com and can't find where it says they won't play GNR songs at the next show.  I must be looking in the wrong place.  Can anyone see this piece of information over there?

And btw, htgth takes a beating on their forum over there.  One of their posters says that members here aren't true GNR fans, but instead are wanna-be GNR fans.  Imagine that....from a dizzy reed forum?!  That like someone in a school student council telling the President of the US that he isn't a realpolitician.   :rofl:  

/Tulip

Lars removed the "No GN'R songs" mention because some people seemed to think it meant Dizzy was tired of GN'R or something.

I think it was originally put there because according to a news story it seemed like Dizzy's tour was a GN'R tribute.

The downloads are gone because of bandwidth issues.



/jarmo

In case anyone cares, the actual message content from the GNR board at Bucketheadland is now gone.  Wiped clean.

http://www.bucketheadland.com/BoardBucketList.asp?brd=2

This ?ber-sucks, regardless of what it means.

-darknemus

Yep...   :no:

edit: and thinking of what it COULD mean is even more depressing... I'm still having a very hard time making something positive out of this... we'll see I guess..

-PEACE-