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What the label should do is release an EP before CD.
This could help smooth things over with the label until they get a release date.

Just put out the first single and maybe 3-5 b-sides on that single to tie people over til the release of the album.

I think this would also be a good way to get Gnr back into the mainstream again.
What do ya think.

Genius idea. Even just studio versions of 'Madagascar', 'The Blues', 'Chinese Democracy', 'Riyadh', 'Silkworms', a reworked 'Oh My God', maybe a re-recorded 'Jungle' or 'SCOM', the first single, some DVD footage, etc.

They should have done that in 2002 for the US tour but yeah, that's DEFINITELY the way to go!! Promote the new band already!! Those guys have been in the band for like 5 years. Some bands don't even last that long. Show everybody what those guys can do!

That being said, I'm pretty sure at least one person working for Geffen came up with that idea but there's something that "forces" them to release the GH instead. Too bad we don't know the behind-the-scenes stuff...

A four song sampler would be great.  The first single and whatever else they saw fit.  Limit the copies, make it a collectable, send it to selected radio stations and whatnot..

I dont want an EP.....CD or nothing.....

U begin to wonder why no one in the GNR camp thinks of this - surely they have years worth of stuff and if u market it as a single + b sides no one will get all stressed that the songs aren't good enough etc.

that's a good idea..just like The Lies was released before illusions..something to chew on while waiting.

Well I haven't been to this board in a while, mainly lost interest with all the bullshit rumors and stupid ass conspiracy theories.  So here is my final post until Chinese Democracy sees the light of day:
FUCK an e.p., fuck a greatest hits etc.
Release the damned album.  It's that simple.  If Axl is paranoid and can't bring himself to release it, then quit, Give it up because as much as you people don't wanna see it, Axl is a joke in the mainstream eye.  He's done far too much shit to make a glorified comeback.  He had his chance twice (Rio and MTV/US tour) and blew them both.  Both appearances were great and he got interest moving in favor of GNR, but he blew it.  So I see it like this....you people can contemplate on the reasons that Axl isn't releasing CD and bitch about the release of the greatest hits, but like it's been said Geffen needs to make money.  I see Axl as a very unstable business risk and Geffen has all the power in the world to release a GH's album.  And of course they're doing it so Axl will get pissed and they feel that may force him to bring out CD.  My point being:  Axl release the damned album now or it's never.  I can guarentee that if CD isn't out this year, any small speck of a comeback will forever be wiped out.
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EP? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and.... ahem... NO  :rant:

I have waited to damn long for this to get a half-assed result which an EP would be. Any other time it would be great, but not after this long. The anticipation means everyone is expecting something big, and us being satisfied with an EP would mean they have even longer till they release CD.

There's supposed to be 16-18 songs on this bastard and I won't be happy with 5-6 songs I've already heard  :rant:

Excuse my rant..... now..... where did I put my pills?  :-\

@#$%Muther

I think the whole point is to make an album without giving into "pressure" from labels, fans, etc.  So I seriously doubt there willl be an EP.  But it's not a bad idea.   : ok:

-F

Just because you guys have heard Maddy, etc doesnt mean the entire world has.

Plus, this is a far better idea to get people talking about GNR than a GHits package.

At least it shows that the band has been doing something for the past X years...

There is no way you can put songs like madagascar on an EP and expect them to be as exposed to the public as if they were on CD.

I can see the news the public will see.... Guns N Roses release EP as precursor to long awaited album Chinese Democracy.

It'll be an anti climax.

@#$%Muther

I've got a great idea!!! How about they release Chinese Democracy to tide us over until they release the "other" two albums they are supposed to have recorded?!  :hihi:

Heh , if the album really dont give a fuck about the gunners or axl's wishes then the best thing they could do is release the best soundboard versions of Madagascar , The Blues , Silkworms , Chinese Democracy , Oh My God & Ryhiad and the Bedouins and call it Guns N Roses - Chinese Democracy "Live 2001-2002"  :hihi:

With re-recorded studio vocals then, please  :confused:

Why? Theres certainly no need too! I take it you must not have every live show the new band has done on audio of video bootleg if you feel this way. Every new song they have has an "excellent" vocal version on the different bootlegs.  ;)

I think that it is a good idea to do that but i don't see it happening.  They wouldn't have waited this long to release just a couple of songs.  When they release something they will release the whole damn thing.  It would just be teasing us with it.  I would go nuts. :nervous:

id rather a official update on the status of CD , or even the band over an EP anyday :yes: anything would better then what we have now which is 'nothing". :'(

Dave, this was a good idea then, and its a good idea now. : ok:

Fuck an EP, I want the real thing. I want the ALBUM and CONCERTS.

Wont they all be on the album? I say put the live versions of these songs on the EP/Single

I rather wait for CD. Sort of like channel the success any EP might have into the album itself.

The only problem is that Dave posted his idea nearly 2 years ago.

 ???They have material :hihi:

A damn good idea, the EP is, but what posesses people to pull up topics this old? 

I'd rather read an old topic with people adding their own ideas to it now than having them post 'new' topics on the same stuff every 6 months, 1 year, 2 years etc.  That is one of the reasons why there is a search button.

An EP is by far the best first step.

It would allow the band to release some new material without all of the pressure of releasing CD. Then 6 months or so later CD drops with a little more buzz and a little less pressure of it being the first release in 15 years.

At this point the goal should be taking pressure off of Axl. Think about it............ This process has been dragged out because he feels pressured to release a perfect album, but the longer it goes the more pressure he must feel, so the process continues infinatly. Then the first chance of us hearing his "masterpiece" is when Stephanie Seymours love child with Axl discovers at 25 years old that he is Axl's son and sues the Lebeis Family (Beta) for control of the CD masters and releases them sometime after I've been put in a retirement home.

an Ep is the worste thing the band can do

Any particular reason why?

I've always dug EP's, random singles.  Much more prevelent back in the day of the smaller indy labels
though, a great way to hold the hardcore fanbase over during inactivity.  Beggars Banquet, Factory,Sub Pop, Minty Fresh were always releasing ep's, very collectable as well.

Can't see it happening with GNR though..

because they need to just release the album. We dont need a holdover at this point in time. We have all already waited this long.

If for some reason the EP bombs we will never see CD anyways. I rather just get the album and as a whole, the best songs that the band has and listen to it like that so people can review and judge it like that. If its great its great, if it bombs it bombs. I dont need Axl going back and tinkering after he releases an EP

I haven't been waiting and I don't see it being stopped by Axl when it really starts (he won't start it with such a mind set),

but I'd rather get albums.

If you are Axl4Prez2004, you will have another kid to tie you over til the release of CD


 ;)

The only time this album will come out is axl's time. When he is ready and no one else it will come out. I thought you people would understand that by now.

I like this idea. The band needs some momentum, even a strong soundtrack single would do that.

That was Interscopes plan with OMG...

I think an EP of new material would help build buzz and give Axl the confidence he needs to just wrap it up and release the whole album.

Release CD first (shock the world), then put out an EP with a masterpiece song on it, then release CD part II and III.
Axl and company will regain their place on the throne, rap will be dead, and rock will live on.

Whew what a dream...

Call the EP, "Sorry About The Wait" LOL

Hey, I agree with you YG! It'd be ridiculous to release an EP after 10+ years of waiting...

We are the only ones who have been waiting..........

An EP would help wet the appetites of the "record buying public". I also think a semi successfull EP would really help push forward the release of CD. I don't care If Axl needs to release a christmas CD with three members of N'Sync first, just as long as something can act as the catalyst to get the ball rolling.

Why wait years on top of what we have already endured and demand "Chinese Democracy" or nothing.

it's a good idea with an EP, but then again anything new is good, meaning an explenation even, or just a one off gig, or a cool interview imo.

it would be a good way to kind of test the water and to see what people think of new gn'r.  It would also get the regular music fan to long for CD aswell as the hardcore fans.

It'd be ridiculous to release an EP after about 8 years of working.
What's the point in testing the water and seeing what people think of the band anymore, considering?
Boiling or icy, you ought to cross the waters, anyway

Only after everything regarding to the album(s) is set up, a single or whatever to promote it would be nice.

Not to hijack the thread but Axl's been working on te UYI follow-up album since 1994.

I'm talking about Chinese Democracy...That wasn't Chinese Democracy in 1994.

An interview with Axl would tie me over for a bit.

I wander if Axl would re-consider answering the 10 questions we made up a while back?

I doubt it his email "safe list" prolly consists of:

Merck and ummmm.

just Merck :hihi:

No harm in trying...from memory last time there was a lot of discussion as to what the questions should be then some person got over excited and ruined it by doing something or other...this time forget the debate and just send the questions again. All Merck/Axl has to do is ignore them if they don't want to anser...its not as if they are not used to that!

well if we did then they would have to be new questions. how long ago was that?

Start a new question thread dude. maybe Mysteron will come on again and yay or nay it, that's what he did last time right? Maybe talking to Robin would be a better idea, we haven't heard shit from him since..... forever i think. my theory on that is that he's doing a bunch of shit with Axl on finalizing this record. Richards latest statement (a few last minute recording details) only strengthend that theory, to me anyway.

Even tring to get merck to answer some questions might be an idea.

write to the Sun for an investigation news@the-sun.co.uk

And Brain's joke...I've had a nagging suspicion similar to yours?Maybe that's also the reason that the other members are working hard outside. :'(

I started an new thread about Robin's whereabouts

Neemo, after seeing the new thread, I realized I misread your post.   :-[

Shit, I put "nc" in place of "liz" on your word "finalizing".

Yep, if Merck or band members can take the trouble to come here just to have a friendly chat with us one of these days, that's super. Thay should say "no comment" to the questions they can't answer or nasty ones.

I've always thought a 2002 tour dvd would work holding the fans until the release of the album.
Even if it was songs selected from all different shows on the tour...Leeds/MSG/Toronto etc

hahahaha gnr do something that makes sense hahahaha

I believe that an EP would be very.. anti-climatic as someone eles put it. It might be OK.. but damnit.. people who are waiting.. are waiting for CD. Just put the disk out.. and THEN a EP. Like.. AFD and Lies.. only closer together in terms of release dates.

Just keep the releases flowing damnit.. C.D.... the next ep.. another ep.. next LP... another EP.. live era 02-09... ect.

So what? If he deletes everything tonight and he'll start working on a new album, then this time tomorrow he'll be working on the UYI follow-up for some hours?

BTW it's ridiculous that Axl-lovers think that working for 10 years on a record is much worse than working for 8 years. Both are insane and ridiculous.

If You don't value the consept or the goals of a project, then that's that.


Who is the Axl-lover that says working for 10 years on a record is much worse than working for 8 years. Both are insane and ridiculous.  ???  Besides, It might be even better.

After all these years it wouldn't be a good idea