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LEGAL JUNGLE: Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose, who controls the name of the band, considering legal action against Geffen Records to block the March 23 release of a Greatest Hits collection, featuring 14 of G N' R's best-known tracks.

http://www.eonline.com/News/firstlook.html

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PARADISE CITY: Meanwhile, Axl and his newly revamped Guns N' Roses are scheduled to play the Rock in Rio-Lisbon festival on May 30, their first live gig since their disastrous 2002 comeback tour which was scrapped with 13 dates remaining.

I know a damn nice way to stop GH. Drop the CD masters in Geffen's lap.

I agree :beer:

This certainly does appear to indicate some frustration on Geffen's part with the band......

that could be good or bad for us

good: it means the album will have to be released soon

bad: if they are getting frustrated it means that Geffen doesn't feel the material is strong enough for further delays........

man i jus think that axl's too scared to release anythin anymore :hihi:

I really don't see that. I see a possibility in Geffen using the GH to make Axl let go of CD. If the material would not have been strong enough this thing would have been over a long time ago.

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LEGAL JUNGLE: Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose, who controls the name of the band, considering legal action against Geffen Records to block the March 23 release of a Greatest Hits collection, featuring 14 of G N' R's best-known tracks.

http://www.eonline.com/News/firstlook.html

http://www.gunnertemple.com/board/index.php?showtopic=993&hl=

Sorry my english sucks!!, im  from Argentina.

That was just posted by Lucio (I merged your thread with his).

My worry is that this Greatest Hits is coming out because Axl is another 6 months or a year away from feeling ready to release CD.

It seems the label have said "Hey Axl, any chance you can finish the album for release this summer?"  and he's said "Um..No.  I need another year."  Geffen have panicked and thought well we'll release a Greatest Hits instead.

This is interesting, and also validates what Mysteron said about the band/management being very unhappy with the GH release.
And I agree with all of you. The best way for a compromise is to Axl and/or management make a statement saying "We have our new studio record finished and want to release it this Spring/Summer." I'm sure more news will follow in the next couple weeks.

 :beer:

I think that this is great news.  Axl is finally putting his foot down and saying the hell with these punks.  I wonder if he knew of the fans protesting....  
However this could delay Chinese Democracy even longer if they have to go to court.  Which would be very bad.  

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It seems the label have said "Hey Axl, any chance you can finish the album for release this summer?"  and he's said "Um..No.  I need another year."  Geffen have panicked and thought well we'll release a Greatest Hits instead.
This would make some sense, but the weird thing is that after the GH album got pulled from it's original November date, I assumed GnR assured the label that the new CD would be ready to roll in the Spring. But now that they're following through on it, I just don't know. I can't imagine the lack of trust and communication they have with each other. It's ridiculous.

Axl will want to wait as long as possible for the stench caused by this homage to a dead band to clear the air. We could be in line for a long wait for Chinese Democracy if the label is persistent.

I woudld be upset if I was Geffen to.  Who takes 13 yrs to do another album of originals?  What a pain in the ass this must be.  Release the album.  If it sucks then try again. >:(

It could also easily end up in "axl u are fired situation" or not?

This whole scenario is just strange. But i can understand Geffen, i mean look at what axl is doing now/done in the last years. The album should have been finished like 2 years ago. It became a joke in the history, no doubt about that.

It is really disappointing for the fans to see this development because right now it doesn't exactly look like we are going to have a happy end ???

I think axl owes us (oh attention ! Axl doesn't ows shit to us) yeah i know  ::)
at least a fucking update about what is going on because this is not the way to treat fans, but hey you already know that, huh? :beer:

Axl will never be fired.  Even if his label doesn't like him, he won't be fired.  Geffen is smarter than that.  They don't care about the drama stuff all they care about it is the bottom line, which is how much money they bring in.  And they know that they can bring in a shit load of money so they will never get rid of him.  

Normal people feel this way about releasing albums  ;)  

But for Axl, this is his baby, his masterpiece, his "preciousssss....."

I'm not sure what Axl would do if CD proves to be either a commercial failure
-or- deemed a failure by music critics.   I wonder if he would continue...

well said..it's just business, nothing more. they want all the money they can get out of it. they have invested a huge amount of money into that album..now throw it all away, I don't think so.

I dont blame the record company! I blame NO body but Axl! I have  a feeling if Axl doesnt release the album very soon this new band is done, the other members has to be getting tired of this shit!

I think it will be the end of the band if Axl goes through with suing Geffen. I have a feeling it will get messy because Geffen isn't just going to roll over unless CD is ready to go.  :no:

unfortunately I agree.  I  tend to think this could very easily be the end of GNR....but on the positive side...at least we should know one way or the other relatively soon.

he's suing because CD is close to being done; he doesn't want a GH package anywhere near the new material. This is good news! we are close.

But if it's released, then i think Axl will push his release date (known only to a deterministic god and Axl) back, probably a year or more.

I hope that this come out to a definite conclusion one way or the other.  Either Axl gets his way (Greatest Hits not released) and he then releases CD, or the record company gets its way (GH released) and GNR is then either over or moving to a different label.  At least once this goes thru one way or the other we may know where GNR stands regarding the release of any original material.

How do you know that? The record company has been hearing it's almost done for years now. It's either done or it's not.  My guess is that it's not or we wouldn't be having this discussion right now.

This will not be the end of Guns N' Roses.  Some stupid cd is not going to end this band.  The suing process will just be a "bump" in the road.  It may cause some frustration among people but not enough to end the band.  

If I was Geffen, I would most likely let him go. Even if CD is realeased and is a huge success -  noone can afford to invest another 10 years for Axl to make the next album.

The reason Geffen are releasing Greatest Hits, I think, is to at least bring in some money to cover the crazy bill that has accumulated.

i gotta disagree izzy

to me if the record wasnt strong enough they wouldnt wanna release it whereas if it is strong enough they want to release it by any means necessarry i think axl is just doubting himself but geffen has heard it and knows its amazing and they are now putting the pressure on axl cause they know he is sitting on a goldmine

axl didn't mind Live Era even though it put bank in the pockets of the old members; he minds this time because this project is close to being done. Remember in axl roses' mind, close means plus or minus 15 months....

maybe its a publicity thing , people will hear about Axl again and about a new album , maybe they do a huge thing about this an the press will start talking about Guns again.

i think this is Geffen putting pressure on axl, not the other way around or this being used as some cheap publicity stunt. perhaps Geffen is tired of being pushed around and tired of handing out extension after extension for axl to get the master copy done already. what better way to get axl to compromise then to threaten his possible comeback with a shitass GH album that could make him into an even bigger joke. :-\

Hey bad publicity is good publicity too.

I agree.. In fact we don't know if BH is still in the band.. maybe he already quit.

IF gnr does sue than to me that meany that CD wont come out for a very long time :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(...its not like that we havent waited a decade or anything like that

what do u people think

where would you get this stupid idea....  :drool:

I agree also.

why the fuck would you bump this? fucking stupid!

Well...you just bumped it again....now that's stupid.

Why did you bump a two year old thread just to say "I agree also"?

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