LARS ULRICH: KURT COBAIN Didn't Want To Share The Stage With GUNS N' ROSES

[jarmo]

On the eve of the 10-year anniversary of Kurt Cobain's passing, NME.com has posted a short testimonial to NIRVANA penned by METALLICA drummer Lars Ulrich. It reads as follows:

"In 1991 there was a kind of shift in rock music in America ? it was shifting away from all the hair bands in L.A. And with Kurt Cobain you felt you were connecting to the real person, not to a perception of who he was ? you were not connecting to an image or a manufactured cut-out. You felt that between you and him there was nothing ? it was heart-to-heart. There are very few people who have that ability.


"I never met him but our guitarist Kirk Hammett had a relationship with him. We were doing this tour with GUNS N' ROSES in the US in 1992 and we wanted NIRVANA to come out and join us. Kirk asked Kurt, but while Cobain said he would play with METALLICA anywhere in the world, at any time, on any stage, he would not step up on the same stage as GUNS N' ROSES ? obviously he felt that Axl was the antithesis to what he was.

"As I said, I never met Kurt, and he's probably the only guy in rock'n'roll that I have never met that I really wanted to ? other than Bon Scott maybe. What a sad thing we can't hear the fourth NIRVANA album. It would have been so great to be able to see how that would have evolved."

http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/index.aspx

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I'm expecting to see a bunch of "Kurt sucks" posts now.....  


/jarmo

[fieldsy]

erm....well.......Kurt sucks

[D]

to quote axl
kurt talks big shit for a man with no head!

[kockstar99]

thats funny as fuck D,  when did Axl say that?

Also what was the Fourth album that Lars is talking about??

Whats the scoop on that?

[ccorn69]

kurt sucks

i like nirvana not as much as GNR, which is more like an obsetion but it is to bad that we never got to see more nirvana cause of cobain killing himself, but hey if he didnt want to share the stage with GNR well the hell with him in that sense. i for one would not have wanted to see gnr and nirvana on the smae stage just cause the vibes given by the bands where completely diffrent


peace

[fieldsy]

thats funny as fuck D,  when did Axl say that?

Also what was the Fourth album that Lars is talking about??

Whats the scoop on that?

he was saying it was a shame that their WASNT going to be a 4th album from Nirvana.  Their past ones were 'Bleach', 'Nevermind' and 'In Utero'  

[Freya]

to quote axl
kurt talks big shit for a man with no head!

Did Axl really say that?  So many things can be said after someone is dead.  I personally think Lars is full of shit.  James Hetfield has a redneck, macho persona that Cobain would have considered his antithesis as well.  I wouldn't dispute Cobain's talent, but he was 27 years old when he died, as you get older, you realize, he didn't know very much.  He acted like a petulant little boy at times, and was more concerned about his image than he let on.  

It's unfortunate, because Axl liked Nirvana and I think felt stung by Kurt's condemnation.  Also, the fervor that these two hated each other with, suggests a real competitive streak.  I saw/read many interviews with Kurt where he would bring Axl up....just because.  And then of course, Axl responded from the stage.  

[kockstar99]

Oh ok thanks... The way he was talking it made me think there was a fourth disc already recorded that they didnt release...

[Pandora]

to quote axl
kurt talks big shit for a man with no head!

I don't think Axl ever said that. Kurt died in 1994 and Axl didn't give any interviews anymore by then.  

I'm surprised Kurt would have shared the stage with Metallica. He seemed to despise metal ....

[Booker Floyd]

I don't think Axl ever said that.

Im positive that he didnt...Another one of Ds delusions perhaps?

 Kurt died in 1994 and Axl didn't give any interviews anymore by then.  

I'm surprised Kurt would have shared the stage with Metallica. He seemed to despise metal ....

Kurt didnt exactly despise metal...but he certainly didnt appear to be a fan.  He was actually weary of former guitarist Jason Everman after discovering he was a fan of speed metal.  Then again, he was a huge Sabbath fan and Im sure he appreciated other metal acts.  Whether or not he said that about Metallica, who knows?  I dont really have any reason to believe that he didnt.  

People have seemed to forget about "Incesticide."

Actually, Know-It-All, Incesticide is simply a collection of B-Sides and rarities - hardly a proper album.  

Nirvana and Guns N' Roses were never meant to be friendly - it just couldnt happen.  Both are great, legendary bands that stood on opposite ends of the spectrum.  

[Dr H Lecter]

I was never convinced by Cobain's supposed media shun. I think he thought himself the next John Lennon and most likely on a superior intellectual level to that of Axl and that the whole wild rock lifestyle that Axl was associated with was a cliche. He had much too high an opinon of himself and his music. To say that GNR's music was terrible, or words to that effect, clearly demonstrates ignorance. Even if he disliked the lyrics, on a technical level Slash and Izzy were a killer guitar combo, vastly superior to anything Nirvana done. Appetite is widely regarded as one of the greatest albums ever made and in my mind much superior to Nevermind. On the illusion albums they performed extroardinary songs, Estranged, Coma etc, demonstrating an expansive ability with music, they may have looked like alot of other 80's band but under the surface they were much, much more, perhaps he should have looked a little deeper.
As for touring with Metallica and not GNR well  

[kockstar99]

Nirvan dont deserve to share the same fucking Stage as Metallica... Metallica are fucking Gods....

Kurt is WAY over rated as a songwriter..
Dave Grohl is the only member worth a shit from Nirvana

The only reason Kurt is still popular is coz hes dead..

[killingvector]

Lars isn't insinuating that Hammett and Cobain had a 'relationship' as in gay relationship? Am i wrong to take the quote that way?

[melkor]

I think Lars U. is lying through his teeth. No way Kurt would said he woulkd have shared the stage with Metallica ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. Please. I'd wager that Cobain had more respect (albiet only a fraction at most) for GNR than Metallica anyway. GNR are they real deal. Met. are a lousy band IMHO, and now are a bunch of greedy phonies. Im not even reffering to all the napster bullshit. What, they are now proclaiming to play different setlists every night so they can move thier official bootlegs. Play songs cause you want to play them, not to sell d/l only cds to fans. I anticipated bands that would follow Pearl Jam's lead by making live shows avalible would IMPORVE upon thier method. I should have known better though, they just see it as a way to make more cash.

Alright, I know Im new around here, so Ill hop off my soapbox now. cheers

[RZ4]

Wow, I'm cracking up at some of the comments that people are making on this story over at Blabbermouth. They got some comedians there, I tell 'ya.

You should all check it out.

[Will]

Yup, those guys are pretty wild...they're making joke after joke, all day long. Some of those are pretty lame, but some of them are actually pretty hilarious!

[Guilty]

To say that GNR's music is terrible just demonstrates a little bit about one's taste in music. Then again, a lot of people just refuse to like some music just because they might not for some reasons like the person who wrote it, or when their idol someone like Axl Rose says something sucks, they automatically decide not to like it as well, since Axl doesn't like it.  ;) As for Cobain having problems dealing with heavy metal, he seemed to have problem with all these hair bands of the 80's with their sexism and excess, and that's not something Metallica was, but GNR had that. I can't say if he just didn't like GNR's music or if it was GNR's attitude that kept him from liking their music. And Cobain never said GNR can't play or that even he himself could play well, so why bring that up?  Can't a song be good if there's no complex playing going on?

[Mr.Intensity]

 Kurt Cobain didn't know what the fuck he wanted. One minute he hated the mainstream and MTV, then the next minute the dude would be on a cover of a rolling stone magazine. I'm betting the Kurt could have never done what Axl has, go 10 years without media spotlight. Kurt acted like he never wanted it, but jumped at it any shot he got. I liked Nirvana, but I never really cared much for Kurts act. I will admit he had more good music left in him though.

[matt88]

The only reason Kurt is still popular is coz hes dead..

I've always thought that 2.

Lars to put it simply is full of shit, always has been. My personall opinion is that he said that Nirvana would share a stage with Metallica is a load of crap and it sounds like he is trying to give Metallica a good name. Nirvana wouldn't share a stage with a metal band.


And Kurt was a wanker, not very talented and had a big ego, he dissed axl all the time when he didnt realise he was the person who made a relationship with Guns N' Roses either on a proffesional or personal relationship impossible

[EvilSmurf]

Nope, I read an interview with Kurt (i think it was the "lost" interview from Guitar World) where the interviewer tells him that Kirk of Metallica is a huge fan of Nirvana and Kurt responds by saying he met him and he was a nice guy and it was an honor to have Kirk like his music.

Also, the Metallica song "The Thing that Should Not Be" is mentioned in Kurt's Journals book.

So yes, he did respect Metallica (and obviously hated Guns N' Roses).

Just wanted to clear that up...

I think Lars U. is lying through his teeth. No way Kurt would said he woulkd have shared the stage with Metallica ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. Please. I'd wager that Cobain had more respect (albiet only a fraction at most) for GNR than Metallica anyway. GNR are they real deal. Met. are a lousy band IMHO, and now are a bunch of greedy phonies. Im not even reffering to all the napster bullshit. What, they are now proclaiming to play different setlists every night so they can move thier official bootlegs. Play songs cause you want to play them, not to sell d/l only cds to fans. I anticipated bands that would follow Pearl Jam's lead by making live shows avalible would IMPORVE upon thier method. I should have known better though, they just see it as a way to make more cash.

Alright, I know Im new around here, so Ill hop off my soapbox now. cheers